The fact that it is capless was the reason for my original lol post on manufacturing gas caps. Oh well, I should have just posted the above photo. lol......lol. This is a fun group!
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Somewhat Tough Questions...
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ElioDigger
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It will be made. we might have to wait a bit longer than we hoped though.
So...based on several forum member's comments...Elio Motors does not currently have a in-house R&D facility...which I find very surprising...
So here's just a small list of testing requirements necessary to bring any new vehicle to market...I'm uncertain how you can set final design parameters without a staff of engineers to oversee & coordinate vender design projects...someone must supervise component integration for the Elio Vehicle...
This is a very insightful comment quoted from another forum with regards to Elio prototype testing...
"With any new engine design...you have to do cold-soak followed by cold start tests, and hot-start tests, and high altitude, and combinations of the two, and wet weather, and freeze/thaw. And you have to do some testing at wide open throttle, and at idle, because they both have limiting conditions for engine wear. It takes months. And that's only the engine. Then there's the transmission, then there's the suspension and chassis, and the electrical systems, and the interior. You have to make sure the vehicle will survive salt-spray environment, and slush and snow, and desert sand, and rain. You have to make sure the ABS and stability-control systems work properly on pavement, and wet pavement, and gravel roads, and on snow and ice, and bumpy roads. You have to make sure the air bags don't fire off when they shouldn't, and do fire when they should.Than there's long term durability studies...actual crash testing has to be performed...etc...etc...etc...the list is long and time consuming."
So...without it's own R&D department...who is going to supervise such endeavors?
So here's just a small list of testing requirements necessary to bring any new vehicle to market...I'm uncertain how you can set final design parameters without a staff of engineers to oversee & coordinate vender design projects...someone must supervise component integration for the Elio Vehicle...
This is a very insightful comment quoted from another forum with regards to Elio prototype testing...
"With any new engine design...you have to do cold-soak followed by cold start tests, and hot-start tests, and high altitude, and combinations of the two, and wet weather, and freeze/thaw. And you have to do some testing at wide open throttle, and at idle, because they both have limiting conditions for engine wear. It takes months. And that's only the engine. Then there's the transmission, then there's the suspension and chassis, and the electrical systems, and the interior. You have to make sure the vehicle will survive salt-spray environment, and slush and snow, and desert sand, and rain. You have to make sure the ABS and stability-control systems work properly on pavement, and wet pavement, and gravel roads, and on snow and ice, and bumpy roads. You have to make sure the air bags don't fire off when they shouldn't, and do fire when they should.Than there's long term durability studies...actual crash testing has to be performed...etc...etc...etc...the list is long and time consuming."
So...without it's own R&D department...who is going to supervise such endeavors?
Altair Engineering is indeed EM's engineering partner in charge of overall vehicle development, R&D, and testing. Altair manages the engineering side of the project with input and oversight directly from Paul Elio. The vehicle was originally developed by Paul Elio and his engineering firm ESG Engineering who still has an interesting image on their home page: http://www.esgeng.com
As has been said EM itself has about two dozen employees with nearly half of these being on the tour and the others overseeing various aspects of the operation.
JP
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you might want to refer back to the later post in your thread ===> http://elioowners.com/threads/tough-questions-of-the-day-does-elio-motors-actually-have-its-own-r-d-facility.5332/#post-74152 .... several engineering resources being used have been listed .... I have no clue as to the technical specs, are the ones you listed applicable to the development of a motorcycle
Jim
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Ty
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That is from Techno Motorsports who fabricated the prototypes.
Ty
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I actually didn't know that about Altair. Thanks.