July 31st, 2017 - Tick Tock...

slinches said:

Why would investors put their money in something when the core supporters have mostly bailed and are talking like it won't happen?

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I get what your saying, but I'm not interested in being a band member who plays on as the Titanic sinks around me. If there's a spot for me in the life boat, I'm in it. There is a point at which all the happy thoughts aren't going to matter, and unfortunately I think we passed that months ago. We had the optimism, we had the pre-orders, we had the mostly positive press. If it was going to happen, I think it would have happened by now. It's been YEARS now! I REALLY hope Paul gets some kind of last minute hail Mary play, but I don't think even he would fault us for taking care of ourselves at this point, especially in hindsight of the support we have given so far. Investors had their shot, they blew it, and now we all suffer for it.

If you want to wear that smile as the icy water crawls up your chest and you scramble for a piece of driftwood, you be my guest. Not me.

KenK said:

I get what your saying, but I'm not interested in being a band member who plays on as the Titanic sinks around me. If there's a spot for me in the life boat, I'm in it. There is a point at which all the happy thoughts aren't going to matter, and unfortunately I think we passed that months ago. We had the optimism, we had the pre-orders, we had the mostly positive press. If it was going to happen, I think it would have happened by now. It's been YEARS now! I REALLY hope Paul gets some kind of last minute hail Mary play, but I don't think even he would fault us for taking care of ourselves at this point, especially in hindsight of the support we have given so far. Investors had their shot, they blew it, and now we all suffer for it.

If you want to wear that smile as the icy water crawls up your chest and you scramble for a piece of driftwood, you be my guest. Not me.

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Thanks. !t's getting late (X:XXVIII) 1/2 a good night!

3wheelin said:

Visionaries sets their standards high and beyond what average human being can see and for the long haul! So give it time and money and it can happen! But I'm not waiting so my grand kids can enjoy it and not me! Having said that, I'm still waiting for a mass produced "flying car" in my measly budget! (I'm getting tired of flying my model airplanes, helis, drones, etc. )

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Get an ultralight. They're affordable and are loads of fun. I had one and plan on getting another one.

KenK said:

I REALLY hope Paul gets some kind of last minute hail Mary play,

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I assume he indeed does and that's what the meeting with the Caddo Parish Commissioners under the non-disclosure agreement was about.

What has been their stance since then? They are not the ones that hit Elio with that heavy fine.

KenK said:

I get what your saying, but I'm not interested in being a band member who plays on as the Titanic sinks around me. If there's a spot for me in the life boat, I'm in it. There is a point at which all the happy thoughts aren't going to matter, and unfortunately I think we passed that months ago. We had the optimism, we had the pre-orders, we had the mostly positive press. If it was going to happen, I think it would have happened by now. It's been YEARS now! I REALLY hope Paul gets some kind of last minute hail Mary play, but I don't think even he would fault us for taking care of ourselves at this point, especially in hindsight of the support we have given so far. Investors had their shot, they blew it, and now we all suffer for it.

If you want to wear that smile as the icy water crawls up your chest and you scramble for a piece of driftwood, you be my guest. Not me.

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What do you lose by remaining engaged and hopeful? If you have stock and want to sell that because it doesn't fit within your limits of acceptable risk anymore, that's fine. Or if you want to cancel your want in reservation, do what you need to. Outside of those decisions, any other investment can only be recovered by EM reaching production. I just don't see a point to saying you're "abandoning ship" when there's nothing to gain by it and there's still an opportunity left to help keep it afloat.

Dikij said:

Get an ultralight. They're affordable and are loads of fun. I had one and plan on getting another one.

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I had the good fortune of having a friend who is a flight instructor and co-owner of a Cessna 4 seater which is also a trainer plane with two yokes and let me handle the take off while my nervous wife sets at the back and directed me to fly the plane to Perris airport, he then landed the plane and there we saw lots of ultralights, almost got tempted to buy one that can be had for like 5K used! But my wife.....you guys know the story when they get in the way of us having too much fun!

slinches said:

What do you lose by remaining engaged and hopeful? If you have stock and want to sell that because it doesn't fit within your limits of acceptable risk anymore, that's fine. Or if you want to cancel your want in reservation, do what you need to. Outside of those decisions, any other investment can only be recovered by EM reaching production. I just don't see a point to saying you're "abandoning ship" when there's nothing to gain by it and there's still an opportunity left to help keep it afloat.

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Slinches I like what your saying, and I agree 100%, we were all gung ho in the beginning, and now that we have hit a low spot there is no need to voice your displeasure, not everyone wants to hear it. And for all the de-cention, you would think they have already announced they have pulled the plug.
They haven't; they are still working hard on finding a funding source, but are handcuffed by regulations from sharing that with anyone. It's depressing to listen to all the ones that used to back this company, bad mouth it. It hard to read any of this. I for one would say "if you don't have anything positive to say, don't say it". We love this product, and in every relationship, you go through highs and lows. They have not said they are closing and going away, they are still here working hard on finding a way to keep it afloat, give them some credit, this is not an easy project, it's hard, very hard. You are trying to change a mind set about what a car can and should be. Trade places with Paul, he had a dream, that he wants to turn into a reality for many to benefit from; why are some in such a hurry to see it fail?

Coss and Slinches.......

I'm on your sides..... thanks for your posts above.

3wheelin said:

I had the good fortune of having a friend who is a flight instructor and co-owner of a Cessna 4 seater which is also a trainer plane with two yokes and let me handle the take off while my nervous wife sets at the back and directed me to fly the plane to Perris airport, he then landed the plane and there we saw lots of ultralights, almost got tempted to buy one that can be had for like 5K used! But my wife.....you guys know the story when they get in the way of us having too much fun!

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Only too well, that's why D I V O R C E

84mpg said:

Coss and Slinches.......

I'm on your sides..... thanks for your posts above.

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Good for you! And it's an old timer too (he's been a member since 8-31-2014)
If we only had the people that stand behind it, I think we would find a good group of supporters.
And we have to stick together, if we turn on them, why be here?