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Looking at Arcimoto, they are lacking in the automation for the assemble line. So that means more labor costs and with the PWN not being at the lower end of it, they need to start producing something and that needs to be the highest profit items. What that does is offset the inefficiencies for a while and show that they could get more funding to go with more automation. On the other hand, if they don't get a flood of reservations coming in that hits their forecast to start going the other way the will run into an issue because they are bleeding money and that only lasts so long. Hopefully the general public is excited about the product as they are and some of the reservation holders. This is why getting to hard production as opposed to soft will tell the tale.
During my factory tour I saw a fully equipped assembly line in the making. They aren’t lacking in the necessary automation equipment, but rather in the process of tooling it up for scaled production. The AMP is currently automated enough to be fabricating many of their own parts from raw materials. They purchased the automation and laser fabrication equipment (BFL) with their first round of Reg A+ funding putting them ahead of schedule. That equipment needed to be set up, but more importantly they needed to hire and train 50+ new employees, complete the vehicle testing and the validation certication requirements enabling them to finalize the specs for the retail production FUV........milestone mission accomplished with the recent reveal and official invitation to order the first 100 retail Evergreen Series. Also, there was discussion about setting up an East Coast AMP in the future once the Eugene AMP is up to speed at the estimated 10,000 units per year/single shift. Arcimoto has a production plan and appear to be achieving the production milestone events needed to make it happen. Money will be rolling in from retail sales to help fuel early startup money burn and hopefully show some future profit, pending market acceptance and demand of their three wheeler commuter.
 
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If Acrimoto is has everything they need, then the reservations will be done by October and then full retail units will be rolling off the line. If they are not fully ready, then those full reservation units will not be available until July or August 2020. The dates will tell the tale.
 

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I didn’t say they have ‘everything’ they need, but do know they are equipped and in the process of setting up and tooling for full and/or partial automated production scale. It takes some time to set up a production line, fabricate and/or inventory parts from suppliers in adequate numbers for scaled production. Keep in mind, the validated production model FUV specs were recently finalized, the production model revealed, along with the official invitation to order the first 100 retail vehicles. Arcimoto: “Anticipated delivery of all current 3000+ reservationist vehicles the end of Q2 2020.” Time will tell the tale of all the startups.
 
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I didn’t say they have ‘everything’ they need, but do know they are equipped and in the process of setting up and tooling for full and/or partial automated production scale. It takes some time to set up a production line, fabricate and/or inventory parts from suppliers in adequate numbers for scaled production. Keep in mind, the validated production model FUV specs were recently finalized, the production model revealed, along with the official invitation to order the first 100 retail vehicles. Arcimoto: “Anticipated delivery of all current 3000+ reservationist vehicles the end of Q2 2020.” Time will tell the tale of all the startups.
The sooner they release their (FUV or SOLO) "production units" no matter how small those first batch are, the sooner we'll know if either one will be destined for further increase in production. I know I'll do my part soon as I get my SOLO. Heck, I'll be more than happy to give them a short test drive......naaahhhh! :lie:
 

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The sooner they release their (FUV or SOLO) "production units" no matter how small those first batch are, the sooner we'll know if either one will be destined for further increase in production. I know I'll do my part soon as I get my SOLO. Heck, I'll be more than happy to give them a short test drive......naaahhhh! :lie:
Arcimoto already has 25+ Sigs, Betas, and a FUV Rental Center up and running. EMV has 40+ SOLOs on the road. Based on test drivers, owners, and media reviews, indicators are that both the FUV & SOLO are going to be well received by a variety of demographics to include the ‘old guys rule’ demographic.

I’m not providing test drive opportunities either, but maybe a short ride along experience. :)
 
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The good thing about Solo and Arcimoto is that they are both on opposite sides of the coin. a customer who sees a Solo as a good commuter is unlikely to want to party at the beach in an Arcimoto. While the Arcimoto isn't for me I can see where it might work.

The sad part is that the Elio slots neatly right in the middle but it's not getting the traction it needs.
 

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That will go places no other Emergency vehicle can go!
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I'd buy a used Volt for a good price but right now used electric cars are a gamble. Battery technology doesn't age very well and these cars were pushing the limit when they were new. turn the heat too high and suddenly you won't make it home. Li-Ion has a sharp cut off at around 2 years last time I checked and 5 years is when it's pretty much toast. I'm told that it's physical degradation so all the "reconditioning" schemes by savy salespeople are just snake oil.
Ah, another misinformed poster.....................:(
 
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