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I looked it up. San Antionio has a Vanderhall Dealer and it's a Certified Service center. They have five Vanderhalls in stock and you can test drive them for free. It's actually called the "Alamo Cycle Plex". They are even a Slingshot Dealer. Found out they have two used Slingshots in stock. It...

Thanks for showing that. Same demographic. Play toy for the weekend when the weather is perfect.

You have to remember, Hyundai Glovis is leasing part of the plant. So the whole property is not just sitting there empty. Plus Hyundai is using the majority of the parking lot for storage and keeping the rail line active. So, nobody is going to demolish the plant. Plus, look at the amount of...

They sent that letter to the wrong address. Elio Motors address is here on the AZ Department of Corporations: https://ecorp.azcc.gov/BusinessSearch/BusinessInfo?entityNumber=15610344 It shows that it's active and in good standing.

What's the difference in the customer base? Both are fair weather three wheelers built for a niche audience. Both are an "and" vehicle. The Vanderhall is $25K and the FUV is $20K. So similar in price. I am not seeing where they are going after a different customer base. Vanderhall is a private...

Honestly, the FUV must be compared to the Vanderhall. Both are fair weather vehicles. Both are three wheelers. Both are startups. Big difference is Vanderhall somehow got to market with customer deliverables way faster than FUV. Makes you wonder if Mark F is not that good at running a business...

He has the Z4 Smile. Same one I had when I bought my Z4. I was going to show how my Z4 could be driven all year. I smiled, cranked up the heat to full and still had to suit up. I showed that my ZUV was so much fun, I was going to make you see it. Then a year passed and I did the two choices that...

I did forget what needs to be added onto that $433M. There's the $7.5M fine and the ongoing cost of $261,204 per month for lease and equipment payments. Whatever that has added up to right now is at least another $3M. The $433M is more like $444M.

Don't forget about Hyundai Glovis. They lease part of the plant and use about 80% of the parking. So he can't let it go to pot. Elio made a smart move though. December 2013 was the start of the lease for the plant. That was for 997,375 sq ft for $244,344. That resulted in 48 months of payments...

Definately. When GM was going to shut down that plant, they did keep it up to top notch shape. Only what it took to get whatever production they needed. Then add into that, ticked off employees that tend to sabotage equipment right at the end. From there 8 years of just sitting just ends up...

The robots are worth lots of money. They can even be reprogrammed and updated. That would be the least of my worries if I had that plant and equipment.

I want to test drive one tomorrow. Can you show me where there's a FUV dealer in the NYC or Philly area? We got lots of people here. I got two Vanderhall dealers and two Slingshot dealers no more than an hour away. We have boatloads of people here in the NE and are begging to drive one. Winter...

You hit the nail on the head. Elio was trying to take a three wheeler and make it mainstream. Tesla tried to take an EV and make it mainstream. Difference was, It took Tesla a while of multiple products to become mainstream. People can change but in the end, you have to get the product out...

Look at it this way. There were a number of people that put money down on the Elio. Then Elio doubled down by having people commit to buy for $7K. If you had that and then came on here or any other forum at the time to complain you never got your Elio and want your money back, there would be...

Elio can set the price to whatever they want outside of the 65K reservations. That's why it's targeted. This is because there are about 21K that are locked in at $7K and the rest are $7.3K. If Elio attempted to change that number to be higher, there would be a class action lawsuit against Elio...

What you are seeing is what you can see with many other stocks. Zombie companies that have dropped off the face of the earth except for a website. The stock never just drops to zero. Just to get to sub penny, takes a long time because the cost to manipulate it is cheap. Even at that, it just...

Makes sense. But it'll come back alive once they get that Eliocoin recoded. I just wish I knew who was recoding it so we could get an ETA when it'll be done.

Best thing is, Elio has stopped all reservations for over a year. One thing I do is check each week to make sure they didn't start it back up again. So, newbies will be out of luck if they try to make a reservation and give them money. Just so you know, I checked right now, there's no way to...

Maybe since Elio stopped with the blogs over two months ago, the new people that were interested in the Elio due to those blogs are looking for new information. Since this is the only forum left and most of the FB groups are stagnant, this is where they go. It's part of being efficient. Only do...

Great to see you got your FUV in the snow. So how comfortable is it when it's cold out? For example we get days where it's 15 degrees and 20 mph wind. How is it when it's snowing when it comes to the defrost and visibility? Then what about the hump that happens when it snows and they haven't...