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'Bye everyone! I just got a message from JEBar to get on the band wagon or get lost. I really don't do band wagons, so I'm outta here. Good luck to everyone, and I hope you all eventually get your Elios. In my honest and not all that humble opinion I really think it's never going to happen...

I was so curious about those positives I actually clicked on a 'twaddle' link before I realized. As a rule I do not care what's in the twaddle-verse. I see nothing new there. It's not even a good take on the same old crap. I am revising my opinion of the odds of EVER seeing this vehicle...

I'm pretty sure there is a safe enough way to transport hydrogen, even if all the kinks haven't been worked out yet. And building infrastructure and everything is just more minor minutiae to figure out. I still have the question that I find ACTUALLY relevant, and that is: WHAT IS IT GOOD...

That would be a totally EASY little project to do. LED's are available in any specs you can imagine these days. If we are going after rear-end collision avoidance a doppler system that would detect a vehicle not slowing down enough once it is within a specific range could set off some rapid...

One can get hydrogen from water, but you have to use hydrolysis, which means using electricity to break apart the hydrogen and oxygen. Then you put the hydrogen into a fuel cell and combine it with oxygen to get electricity with water as a byproduct. You end up in the end with less power than...

Sure fuel cells have been around for some time, and in all this time they have never been able to produce a LOT of power in a compact enough package. They're getting there. Problem is hydrogen don't grow on trees. If you plan to get it through electrolosis you might as well just use the...

Somehow I'm thinking it won't sell for $8000. Hydrogen: a more efficient way to burn fossil fuels. Not an answer, but maybe another 'bridge' technology.

I'm glad not to be the only one who is willing to say that open-pipe Harley crap is NOT cool, it's just obnoxious! (And no, the 'safety' crap won't fly either).

I can buy a lot of little scooters for gettin wet and cold riding around town for the kind of money they're talkin' about for that thing. Even electric ones. Looks like a $1200 scooter with $8800 in superfluous 'cool' tilting wheels. What exactly is the advantage of this over a traditional...

The Smithsonian generally displayes items of SIGNIFICANCE to our culture and heritage. I doubt Elio ever rose to that standard outside of a few groups like this one.

I think there is little merit to a class action suit at this point. A bit too early to call the whole venture a complete failure, though maybe not by much. I'm still hoping it works. If and/or when the whole thing fizzles though, I'd guess there will be plenty of opportunists out to scavenge...

Just by-the-by, I thought I might raise a couple questions I hadn't noticed an answer for. One is: what kind of cruising speed can this thing manage, while getting 70 mpg? Yes, they use these types of vehicles in other countries, but I've never seen one go over about 45 mph. Two: did anyone...

I think that is a very noteworthy and potentially worrisome observation. The Chinese crap that is sold to us here in the US and Europe, etc, for all I can tell, is the export garbage they build for selling to suckers! From what I have come to understand, the chinese people themselves would...

If that harmless little post set you off so badly you better ignore me too. I'm sure I'll say something MUCH worse than that in no time! B-)

$2.00 LESS?! You obviously don't live in Michigan. THEY will find some excuse to charge you $20 MORE! And double the insurance costs for good measure.

All the CONSTANT whining about 'trolls' on this forum is getting pathetic! Just because you don't share smeone's opinion doesn't make it invalid. Even if they are flat out wrong that does not constitute a 'troll' just because it's contrary to your own agenda. I'm sure the moderators here have...

Not sure what a lower court sorting out a collision has to do with anything. Whatever the legislation says is what it says. Whatever a judge does or doesn't like about it is irrelevant. Courts don't make law, (in theory). But if the law says three wheels doth a cycle make, then it's a cycle...

Right on the money! It's difficult to fathom how much of our lives are dictated by our socioeconomic status, and how quickly those with disposable income forget what it means to not have any. Would I like to have an awesome dash to look at for the thousands of hours I'll be behind the wheel...

Well... If you really WANT to pay CAR insurance rates, CAR license cost, CAR registration tax, CAR road tolls, etc... Etc.....etc we can just call it a C-A-R and make it nice and simple. Personally, I'd still much rather save the money and keep the vehicle's classification on the ambiguous...

Perhaps more discussioñ on the location of the fuel cap?