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Sorry, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. This email prompted me to reply, updating folks that I’ve moved on. Shame on me for believing this could happen. Paul is untrustworthy. I had my accountant write off the loss as a bad debt. Then this spring we bought a 2020...

So it sounds like you would hold Elio to the contract - many of us want to do the same. Adjusting the start-up costs to the same inflation level puts this even farther out of reach.

Since all our discussions are in the hypothetical, I pose to the group the following: $7500 in 2009 indexed for inflation would be close to $9k today. Several of us already lost their deposits, but secretly still want an Elio. Stay with me here - if Elio got funding (ok, stop laughing now)...

Technically, this decade ends Dec 31, 2020, and the next one begins Jan 1, 2021. Dang it! I just gave Paul another year for his ‘end of the decade’ comment. Tick-tock, those of us remaining have no choice but to wait a little longer.

I signed my binding commitment about this time in 2017. It clearly says that my base price is locked. I can’t get my $1k back, so if this goes to production, I’m not renegotiating the binding commitment. If the price goes up or the production vehicle is electric, I’m no longer interested. In...

How about this for an option: I saw the fixed triangle track on an ATV doing some mountain trekking. Those of us with tires occasionally got stuck, but the ones with tracks had no problem.

Watch for tax loss selling Monday. Then buy your stock back in 30 days, go long.

Video says that an 18" tire would work. At the moment, the design is for 15" tires front and back: https://www.eliomotors.com/where-the-rubber-hits-the-road/ What would it take to engineer a smaller electric motor?

I’m not interested in an all-electric car/autocycle. I would, however, be interested if they put in a real wheel hub motor and made it a hybrid. This might also help get to the up to 84 MPG we were promised, with electric assist. ICE plus battery, what could be a new combined HP?

Call it a security token, call it a stock certificate, either way EM is not making progress getting funding which puts this venture into question. All our discussions here are academic without funding and a start date. Maybe because the market’s been down two days, but at some point, we have...

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/elio-motors-kicks-off-security-token-pre-sale-to-fund-production-300716124.html Nothing comes up when you search on the JonesTrading website about Elio Motors. If the agent selected has no information, did any institutional investors buy in the pre-sale...

Does this count?

Maybe the head rest could have a display hooked to a dash cam? Elio option.

In the Elio YT video of the crash test, specifically from the rear, where does the rear tire go? It seems to be lost and not forced into the rear compartment. The seat bottom and or the tire rim is that strong? The tire deforms the impacting object? Yes, I want the passenger compartment to...

Does anyone care to speculate on the engine shutting off at a stop sign or light? That is one of the efficiency gains touted in the eco boost videos. I experienced this with a rental car. You get used to it. In a hybrid, it's expected. In my Bronco II many years ago, it meant trouble.

Thanks, I was unable to find an interior image that showed the light. In this location, it should work. Above the steering wheel is the visor, the roof images did not show the dome light, but there is a ‘bar’ in alignment with the B pillar that I thought was it. The description that the...

Why is the dome light over the steering wheel? Is this the only interior light? The light from the stereo won't be much. My concern here is the rear seat and the trunk. Anyone else think it will be underlit based on the blog description?

https://www.nhtsa.gov/ratings I’ve been thinking about the 5 star crash rating, like what are the parameters and how is it calculated. While the tests to some extent are described, how scoring occurs us not provided (website above). Secondly, the standard has changed as technology has...

Sounds like there’s another strategic alliance on the horizon. The 3 E-series created so far are the near-final versions. Need to build 20 for testing, which will go to destruction. There was mention of 6 for crash tests, but I was unclear if these are 6 different cars or a sub-sample of the...

It seems that Byrnes is saying things that may not be true regarding the coin line jumpers. When I asked Elio about this possibility, along with the upset nature of the SIL faithful, this was their response: The Elio Customer Experience Team (Elio Motors) May 10, 11:37 EDT Hey Mark, Not...