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    What Happened To The Fly The Road Club And Forum?

    Unfair. A non-tilting delta trike has some stability design issues, but the tilting front section overcomes most of that, at least in theory. There is still some question about braking, but keeping weight distribution towards the rear, and with both car-type tires flat on the road at the back...
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    Arcimoto

    Of course, sports car owners are going to take their sports cars (aka FUV's) out to the golf course to experience the sports car handling on the nicely manicured grass. It's perfectly logical.
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Linus' belief in The Great Pumpkin has more basis in fact and is more rational than a belief that Elio Motors will ever produce a vehicle. Sorry guys & gals, it just isn't going to happen.
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Friend, if you sent them money, you were intentionally taken for a ride. At the very latest, Paul Elio and the powers that were within the company knew at the time of the first SEC filing that the project was not feasible as promoted. They knew that they were stating as facts things that were...
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Have a great life! As far as I can see, most people just view the Elio saga, and this site, as a mild amusement. There's not much point in being angry or hopeful about this. The facts/future of Elio Motors has been crystal clear since 2014l Getting emotionally involved about Elio is about as...
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    The Nobe

    Cute car. All-wheel drive, 160 mile range, $40-43k, $2.5-4k refundable but non-escrowed deposit, to be available in the U.S.A., no promise of production that is supposed to start by 4Q2021, company will update reservationists on or about 01 Dec 2021. "Car of the future" because it sure isn't a...
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    Arcimoto

    It would be more accurate to say that the only people who claim "sports car handling" for the Arcimoto know little to nothing about sports cars and/or are being paid by Arcimoto to pitch the vehicle. Track times, independent recorded tests, and documentation would have some meaning.
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    Arcimoto

    Rick, please share with use your experiences with driving sports cars so that we can understand just how the Arcimoto stacks up.
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    Update On My Ayro 311 Reverse Trike & Something Went Horribly Wrong!

    EMV have been flaky for a long time. It does appear that they have updated specs on their website. Slower, heavier, wider, less HP, more expensive,skinnier front tires, fatter rear tire, but at least the charge times seem realistic now. Considering that the website is showing deliveries for...
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    Update On My Ayro 311 Reverse Trike & Something Went Horribly Wrong!

    I really don't think he's going into panic mode. He's already stated that he could walk away financially and still be fine.
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    Arcimoto

    Yep. Nothing quite says "GREEN! Eco-Warrior" like towing an electric tricycle behind your 8.5mpg motor home.
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    Why No Law Suit...............

    LOL "My" contract? That was Elio's contract, not mine. It was an invalid contract due to lack of consideration. I was insufficiently naive to actually give them any money. When I walked into the CAD office that was listed on the contract, with money in my pocket, and the people at the...
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    Ayro 311

    There comes a point in a conversation/thread when you realize/understand that there are people in the conversation who are not listening. Being more reasonable doesn't change the attitudes of those who do not base their arguments on reason. Same with logic, facts, etc. What starts out as...
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    Update On My Ayro 311 Reverse Trike & Something Went Horribly Wrong!

    Perhaps in your state. I was just letting you know about AZ. Should be even less likely you'll make it here with a new top speed of 25mph, so no need for you to worry about AZ laws.
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    Why No Law Suit...............

    The problem is not that Paul was a roofer. The problem is that he never built the promised vehicle.
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    Heard From Elio?

    The mantra on this site has always been that Elio is under no legal obligation for anything, and you should have read the agreement. I never thought that was a good argument, but it seems strange to be okay with getting a paragraph when you were supposed to be getting a functional vehicle.
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    Update On My Ayro 311 Reverse Trike & Something Went Horribly Wrong!

    There are minimum speed and holding up traffic laws in Arizona. Don't know about other states. It seems like needless worry about driving a low-speed, short range vehicles on highways, especially when the vehicle is non-operational. We all hope the OP gets the thing working, but there are...
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    Why No Law Suit...............

    That is almost certainly true if you are a skilled mechanic & fabricator, or can afford to hire the same. Unfortunately, the odds of getting your hands on one of the show cars is infinitesimal. There are lots of project and kit cars out there that really exist, and would reward those talents...
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    Update On My Ayro 311 Reverse Trike & Something Went Horribly Wrong!

    When I had more money than time, I bought new and let the mfg fix stuff under warranty when (fortunately seldom) needed. If things broke after the warranty, I'd get rid of them. Nowadays, I buy (cheap) used, and fix it myself. I'm friends with tinkers, parts stores, and salvage yards. I...
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    Update On My Ayro 311 Reverse Trike & Something Went Horribly Wrong!

    More than likely, it was just a purchase, rather than an investment. I, too, hope for a happy ending. A common problem that the purchasers of trikes, used vehicles, exotics, classics, etc is that of parts, service, and repairability. I love watching Jay Leno's Garage (the youtube channel...
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