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  1. J

    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Pe has wisely gone underground to avoid those potentially "unpleasant" encounters with any disgruntled, unwitting financial contributors to his current low key, but probably comfortable, lifestyle. I doubt that pe even lives in Phoenix anymore. I imagine he will live out the rest of his days in...
  2. J

    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    "not to mention the elio's awesome gas mileage"?? What gas mileage are you talking about? There are no functioning elio's (only a few incomplete prototypes) and only the unsubstantiated claim of "up to 84MPG", whatever that means.
  3. J

    My Elio Alternate Project Is Underway.

    W. Willie, any chance you would be willing to post pixs of your turbo install? I find the first generation Honda Insight to be superb in its design, fit, economy and overall high quality. I believe that so much that I bought 4 Honda Insights over the last couple of years to experiment with and...
  4. J

    My Elio Alternate Project Is Underway.

    Well, you've got a tough row to hoe but I hope you are successful. Pe failed miserably because of the unrealistic "must haves" that he set. As you are in China, with its first class manufacturing capability you are that much further ahead. Good luck, I hope you are thinking electric power...
  5. J

    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    As I have said before, you have unbelievable tenacity and determination. If you go thru a third unit that will be the bulk of that production run. No one will know more about those buggies than you. Good luck, I do hope this one is the charm.
  6. J

    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Well it's a shame then that elio had (has) a production ready vehicle and no further examples. What power plant was under the hood?
  7. J

    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    So what exactly did you "test drive"? Per my reading of the available information, elio never managed to produce a single, complete, roadworthy vehicle. Only a handful of unfinished prototypes.
  8. J

    I Am Not Done Believing.

    Agreed, the elio will certainly never be built. And absolutely not in an ICE configuration. That time came and passed years ago. Better to move on to something more viable.
  9. J

    Update: After Nearly 6 Months After 1st One Died At 4 Miles, Finally Was Sent A Replacement Ayro 311

    Agreed, flooded acid / lead batteries sulfate if left unattended and not recharged regularly. But poster indicated a second mechanical failure, similar or even identical to the first unit's failure. So that would indicate an electric motor that simply is not up too the task. Silly to go around...
  10. J

    Update: After Nearly 6 Months After 1st One Died At 4 Miles, Finally Was Sent A Replacement Ayro 311

    Well great, if money is not an issue, then by all means keep us informed. It is an entertaining thread of "how not to design or build something". I have never heard of such a convoluted journey, nor of an end consumer with the patience of Job. As it seems the reoccurring problem is in the very...
  11. J

    What Is Elio Stock Trading For Today?

    Or the real reason, which is; what can he say? He led a project that was doomed to failure from inception. Pe has gone dark and underground to protect himself.
  12. J

    What's Your Production Number? - Share You Number With Everyone On This Thread!

    If your offer was directed to me "some move on". No problem, life is way to short to waste on a failed project. If you wish to continue to hold out hope, well more power to you. Despite what you think dissention is not a bad thing. But I wish you well and the miracle that you obviously are...
  13. J

    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    If pe were to offer a complete drawing package, yes I would likely buy a set, just for my own interest. Plenty of available electric front wheel drive motors and could be fitted.
  14. J

    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Hard to understand why anyone would still believe that somehow a "miracle will happen" and that the elio will magically be produced, when the facts would suggest otherwise. All pe's silly "must haves", up to 84 MPG, utilizing off the shelf technology, USA built, low purchase price, etc. etc...
  15. J

    Update On My Ayro 311 Reverse Trike & Something Went Horribly Wrong!

    Under the circumstances, that is the very best outcome, other than a lot of lost time and frustration. Even a lawyer representing you would have most likely reached a similar settlement, so good for you.
  16. J

    Why No Law Suit...............

    You sound like you know your way around a law book, so I will defer to the very good points that you make. I still believe though that a lawsuit at this late date would be pointless and the only parties that would benefit would be the opposing lawyers. I think pe will always land on his feet and...
  17. J

    Why No Law Suit...............

    The time for a lawsuit came and went long ago. Timing is everything. People that were financially harmed and had/have legal "standing" did nothing. Consequently any court is unlikely to rule for relief at this late date. When that type of unethical behavior was tolerated (for years) well I...
  18. J

    Update On My Ayro 311 Reverse Trike & Something Went Horribly Wrong!

    Well, if you are not particularly risk adverse and you feel comfortable driving a vehicle with a top speed of 50mph (that speed is no doubt under favorable conditions) on any highway, more power to you. I certainly would not, but fortunately we still live in a mostly free country. Let us know...
  19. J

    Update On My Ayro 311 Reverse Trike & Something Went Horribly Wrong!

    Well, not wishing to discourage anyone, but driving an under-powered vehicle in today's traffic is surely not recommended. Whether that is a Chang Li or an Ayro. I imagine there are people here who still remember the early air-cooled Volkswagen beetles or even worse a VW Microbus. The earliest...
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