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Delay Due To Automatic Transmission Delay?

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Could the latest delay have anything to do with the automatic transmission not being available until after production has started?

When Jeff Johnson was on the Autoline program, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4l3V877kfA

He said the automatic transmission would not be available until later during the first year of production, meaning people wanting manual transmissions would get theirs first, and people with automatic transmissions would have to wait. This would be very upsetting to many people, making them angry. The good will of the reservationists driving their Elios around and showing them to the public would be very important advertising to EM. Suppose someone is All-In for $1000, has a low SIL,and ordered an automatic transmission. Now suppose they see someone who is $100 Want-In with a manual transmission, getting theirs first. That would be very upsetting to the All-In person who has waiting a long time and taken greater risk. They would probably say very negative things about EM instead of good. EM does not want that.

A way of solving this is to delay all production until the automatic transmission can be delivered from the beginning, just like the manual transmission.

Perhaps this is the reason of the latest delay. After Jeff Johnson told of the automatic transmission delay, EM said he (Jeff Johnson) was unaware of other important information. Certainly delays are something important and only Paul Elio would know about them.

All this seems to fit together, however that does not mean it is true.

Perhaps this should be spun into an explanation saving face for EM, and thus not driving off investors. Having a delay due to one specific item, like transmission availability, gives a better impression than due to overall and repetitive problems of the program.
 

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There is a multi, multi, multi page post on that video on the site.
There were a number of things Jeff was incorrect about in that interview, the transmission was one of them.
EM confirmed that the next day. Jeff was just rambling about things he had no current up to date information when he did that interview.
It is explained in that thread with a statement from Paul also.
So wile this seems like a valid reason for the delay, it is not.
 

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Could the latest delay have anything to do with the automatic transmission not being available until after production has started?

When Jeff Johnson was on the Autoline program, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4l3V877kfA

He said the automatic transmission would not be available until later during the first year of production, meaning people wanting manual transmissions would get theirs first, and people with automatic transmissions would have to wait. This would be very upsetting to many people, making them angry. The good will of the reservationists driving their Elios around and showing them to the public would be very important advertising to EM. Suppose someone is All-In for $1000, has a low SIL,and ordered an automatic transmission. Now suppose they see someone who is $100 Want-In with a manual transmission, getting theirs first. That would be very upsetting to the All-In person who has waiting a long time and taken greater risk. They would probably say very negative things about EM instead of good. EM does not want that.

A way of solving this is to delay all production until the automatic transmission can be delivered from the beginning, just like the manual transmission.

Perhaps this is the reason of the latest delay. After Jeff Johnson told of the automatic transmission delay, EM said he (Jeff Johnson) was unaware of other important information. Certainly delays are something important and only Paul Elio would know about them.

All this seems to fit together, however that does not mean it is true.

Perhaps this should be spun into an explanation saving face for EM, and thus not driving off investors. Having a delay due to one specific item, like transmission availability, gives a better impression than due to overall and repetitive problems of the program.
Contrary to what you've heard or read, nothing has change much on the status quo regarding ELIO's availability except it's now been moved to 2018...or beyond - the delays has always been associated with acquiring funding. With funds in place, all the E-series will get tested and validated, the 100 pre-prod gets built and we're that much closer to our production specs ELIOS. Direct from the horse's mouth (source- Momentum V87) and I quote "We aren't quite at our final destination YET, but the fight burns deep in our belly. WE CONTINUE TO PURSUE FUNDING strategies that will get us to production and we expect 2017 to be another year of exciting progress" end quote. I sure hope that their pursuit of funding happens soon because they're running on the RED financially and time is not on their side. IMHO.
 

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Paul said Jeff was incorrect about the transmission delay but did not say why he was incorrect. I think it is possible Paul Elio was planning another delay so both transmissions could catch up with each other. In addition to both transmissions being available at the same time, it would also provide "breathing room" for other work needing to be performed.
 
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