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Elio Motors Momentum v122



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In case you missed it, last week’s Momentum presented answers to engineering questions we received from Elio Motors supporters. Last week focused on more general engineering questions, while today’s Momentum will answer engine specific answers.






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The Elio Team posted: " Of the thousands of components that come together to make a vehicle operational, the engine is often viewed as the most important. Fittingly, it also tends to generate the most questions. In case you missed it, last week’s Momentum presented answers to e"

Engine Questions, Answered
by The Elio Team



Of the thousands of components that come together to make a vehicle operational, the engine is often viewed as the most important. Fittingly, it also tends to generate the most questions. In case you missed it, last week’s Momentum presented answers to engineering questions we received from Elio Motors supporters. Last week focused on more general engineering questions, while today’s Momentum will answer engine specific answers.

Q: Are the valves hydraulic or will they need to be adjusted? If so, what mileage interval?

The Elio engine valves are direct acting buckets that will not require adjustment at any mileage interval. This design is currently used on popular engines. Find below a CAD rendering of the current valvetrain:



Q: How does 11:1 compression run on 87 octane gasoline?

This question is quite common, and the answer is multifaceted. A compression ratio of 11 is being used for the production engine. The higher geometric compression ratio allows longer expansion ratio, which is a primary factor in fuel conversion efficiency. IAV has designed the engine to avoid knock primarily by reduced cylinder pressure via reduced volumetric efficiency via intake valve timing. The secondary knock avoidance mechanism is spark retard. The key enabler to the high compression ratio is enhanced cooling which controls combustion chamber metal temperature.

There are several main factors that allow us to achieve our targeted mileage with an 11:1 compression ratio:

Enhanced intake and exhaust port flow

Enhanced combustion through swirl/tumble optimization

Sequential port fuel injection (reduce event-to-event variability)

Advanced spray targeting provides gasoline direct injection-like (GDI) cooling benefits without the cost

Improved cooling reduces octane requirements enabling higher compression ratios

Variable valve lift allows optimal engine residency for fuel economy

EGR with cooler

Piston and Head Shape: The design on the Elio piston and head allows for maximization of the stroke.

Valve angle: The angle of the valves when incorporated with the changes above, allow for a super-efficient engine.

This compression ration aligns with current and future compression ratios of vehicles. If you look at the current and near future designs they range anywhere from 10:1 to 16:1 ratios.

Q: Will the Elio use a timing chain or a timing belt?

The Elio engine will use a timing belt. We have decided to use a timing belt for several reasons. First, a timing belt reduces weight, friction, and vibration. Second, a timing belt fits the simplicity of the design. Finally, a timing belt will enhance the longevity of the engine. Using a timing belt meets our objectives and is preferable to the customer.

Q: Will the Elio have an interference or non-interference engine?

The Elio will have a non-interference engine. In a non-interference engine, the piston cannot move into the valve area.

Q: Will a different engine, with a different power source, ever be available?

While a different engine may be possible in the future, our first model will run solely on unleaded gasoline. The primary reason we are using gasoline is to keep our base price as low as possible. Our sole focus is getting the vehicle to market as quickly as possible and at an unbeatable value proposition. That said, we also believe that the vehicle platform is perfect, in the future, for alternative power sources.

Again, thank you to all of our supporters that provided us with these tremendous questions. As we continue down the path toward production, we will endeavor to provide you a look into the process of designing and engineering an innovative new vehicle.

The Elio Team | September 6, 2017 at 6:21 pm


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Interesting , I thought it was an interference engine. Now I like the timing belt over noisy chain.
If the belt brakes, the motor won't fall, down time on a side road, baby and all.
Correct?
 

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Interesting , I thought it was an interference engine. Now I like the timing belt over noisy chain.
If the belt brakes, the motor won't fall, down time on a side road, baby and all.
Correct?
Yup, at least you won't have to replace pistons and valves that meet catastrophically.
 

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Originally the vehicle was going to have a tubular frame, now it has a stamped frame. It was going to have a composite body, now it is going to have a metal body with some nonmetal parts. It was going to have the elgin gauge cluster, now it will have a traditional gauge cluster (not complaining). It was going to use the windshield washer jug the fluid came it, now it will have a typical reservoir. It was going to have a timing chain, now it has a belt.

Wow. This vehicle is really changing. (I trust it will still have 3 wheels ultimately.)

I wonder if it will still be called "Elio".
 

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In the following video, engineer Cody from IAV says a belt has less friction than a chain but they went with the chain for reliability.

EM changed their mind and went with a belt, which Cody says has less friction. Was this to achieve the 84 mpg, or cut costs, or something else?


It is at time 8:30
 

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I remember them saying it was a chain previously. I am fine with a belt for a non-interference design. The compression seems pretty high for a non-interference design, but I bet they notched the pistons with valve reliefs.

Glad to learn something new, finally! It also tells me with the lack of data that either no testing has been done with the motor in the car with the current drivetrain or the preliminary numbers were too bad to publish. Not unexpected with early stages of tuning, though. I was just secretly hoping they made more progress in the background than they had let on.
 

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Chains, while more noisy, last for the life of the engine. I hate the idea of changing the timing belt. Transverse mounted engines are very crowded in that area. I hope the engine does not have to be dropped to change the timing belt.
 
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