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Traction Control Kill Switch?

Discussion in 'Elio Drivetrain' started by Ghastly, Nov 8, 2016.

  1. Ghastly

    Ghastly Elio Fan

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    It may be too early yet to ask, but do you folks who are more in the know know whether the Elio is likely to have a switch that permits disabling the traction control feature when desired by the driver?

    I know that the inclusion of ESC is required for cars now - but all of mine that have had it also had a switch to disable it. What I don't know is if the switch to disable the feature is also mandated since I've never seen a car with the feature without the ability to disable it.

    And since the Elio isn't legally a car (yet) ... I'm not sure how reliable what I've seen in the past is as a guide to begin with.

    TIA!
     
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    I dont think gen1 elios will have a traction disable mode and probably wont have that option at all with cars essentially having 2 options standard or automatic transmission.

    I bet if ther is plenty of people making elios into autocross cars or track cars then maybe they will think about it.
     
  4. Coss

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    You might what to hold back on that answer, EM has said something about a sport mode, and economy mode.
    Just because it has both manual and stick doesn't make a difference.
    It was brought up a couple of weeks ago; I think it is worth doing a search on the forum to find the answer; you'll find our search function on the home page of the site.
     
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    Hmmm. i wonder if the sport and eco is a reference to the cam design with it being a variable lift design like hondas vtec.

    I am definitely all for a happy little traction button. i live near a SCCA location like within earshot.
     
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    I believe it will be more of the ESC change; change the timing, and fuel injection rate, shift points etc.; I don't think it will activate any changes in the motor. As for the traction control switch, I think it's required any time a vehicle has traction control. In my Magnum, I couldn't make it into my garage once when it was icy out; my driveway is a little up hill and once the tires would spin when I was easing it in, the traction control would kick in; no throttle response (it disabled it) you could floor it, and it would not do anything. So it was stop, turn off Traction Control, and drive into garage.
    So with "side affects" like that, you could be in a bad situation and not be able to get out of it unless you are able to turn it off.
     
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    Thanks everyone. I'll look forward to the likelihood that traction control will be able to be switched off on demand.

    To be clear, it's not the electronic stability control that I care about having the ability to turn off. I have no desire to attempt to drift around a track or otherwise push the envelope in the Elio such that ESC would interfere with my intent.

    It's traction control I find to be intrusive, unsettling, and in the worst case scenario (which happens not infrequently during the winter months here) dangerous to the point of potentially fatal - and not under excessively aggressive driving conditions at all but simply under conditions that are normal during commuting to work many weeks of the year here.

    That I do want the ability to disable.

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    Howdy from Arizona Ghastly. All my cars that had traction control also had a button to turn it off, so I'd think it will have one to.
     
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    Only my wife's car is new enough to have electronically augmented traction control. It does have an "off" switch, which is good or she would never get up our driveway. More slip = less power = stuck mid-driveway. Ramming speed gets it to the top.
     
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    Just had to be done. :D
     
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