If I wanted open air commuting experience on a clear day, I'll roll both window down or up when it's raining! I can enjoy driving with either arm resting by the window while holding the wheel with the other and still have control of the brakes and speed with my foot like a normal car. Also, I think the 20K price does not include the full enclosure doors/windows. In the same mind set as 84mpg, it's like a soaped-up golf cart and unlike the SOLO 3.0, the FUV's batteries are NOT liquid-cooled which is a big consideration.It seats one but also does not give the open air riding experience that the FUV does, which I believe was one of the appeals for Rickb. We spoke a bit about this since we both test drove the FUV and both enjoyed it. I gave up motorcycles for my Miata for the open air commuting experience, the FUV felt like a cross between them. Not as open and free as a bike but more so than the Miata.