P5

[Ekh]

They did get it with more power, that's why they're having to detune it.

Say some more about this, please.

 

[Ekh]

I would think that since Elio commissioned IAV to design their block that they would have required the mounting points to be in the right places. Maybe not though. If I asked for a motor to be built, that is what I would have done. (I would have also asked for more power... Maybe it's good I wasn't doing the asking.)

Is it easier to tweak the car design to get the mounting points right, or to re-design the block casting each time you need to change the car design? My guess is it's easier to fiddle the mounting points on the car -- which is what they've had to do to mount the current prototype engines. New prototype may necessitate different mounts, etc.

I think they need to pick something and move forward.

 

[pj rogers]

Check out the Suzuki alto, close to the elio in size and weight...EM could have bought the engine and drive train from Suzuki, put it in the elio, and from what it looks like..probably would get over a 100mpg. highway..heck, they could still do it in the 14 months. Buy say 50,000 combos, and take your time with the IAV, and make monthly payments to IAV also.

 

[pj rogers]

Seems like a new elio prototype shows up about every 6-7 months??
Oh, I wish they would actually put a exhaust system on the P's the damn things sound awful. If I was spending over $125,000 for a P, prototype.... I would want it to sound good. (first impressions are so important to new buyers)

 

[ecdriver711]

Seems like a new elio prototype shows up about every 6-7 months??
Oh, I wish they would actually put a exhaust system on the P's the damn things sound awful. If I was spending over $125,000 for a P, prototype.... I would want it to sound good. (first impressions are so important to new buyers)

I agree. Love this car but the loaner exhaust sounds bad.

 

[ecdriver711]

Lots of fun idea,, me, I want the new P5 or P6 to be SIMILAR to the tuvie.com SEV the space efficient vehicle from the Netherlands.
3 people, staggered (NOT SIDE BY SIDE) seating, a decent size trunk and better areo which means better mpg's, and a faster elio..and I do worry about the ice and snow build on those pontoons..we have ice storms here in OKC.
we have 85% of the costly stuff done, toss some plastic on it and go, go elio, we have 14 months to make it a world wide million vehicle seller and not just to old bikers and commuters. If I only had one change, a passenger door on the curb side so my grandkids can get out safely and not in traffic..i would gladly give up a star for that.

Ah, I think your on the wrong forum. This is the Elio. As of the latest prototype, the orange one.

 

[pj rogers]

I don't know ecdriver711, EM has yet to make one that runs, doesn't have a real engine or a transmission, and Is 14 months away or more from making one for sale..You and I, and the rest of us do not know what the final model will look like do we.?
You have to look at the big picture Mr. Elio does promise a lot of things, but he is a car salesman right?

 

[Rickb]

Paul Elio is an Engineer with a clear vision in mind. He will be hiring factory trained specialists to provide customer assistance at the Elio Retail Centers. No dealerships......no car salesman. Car salesman need not apply.

 

[Ekh]

Check out the Suzuki alto, close to the elio in size and weight...EM could have bought the engine and drive train from Suzuki, put it in the elio, and from what it looks like..probably would get over a 100mpg. highway..heck, they could still do it in the 14 months. Buy say 50,000 combos, and take your time with the IAV, and make monthly payments to IAV also.

I sure hope the folks at Elio actually read this thread …. but of course, it would be out of character for them actually to say "thanks for the great ideas."

 

[pj rogers]

Hey rick, Mr. Elio is a car salesman*, Jerome is a car salesman, and finance manager, and probably the sales trainer for the entire company. Jerome will make the sales videos available to every showroom..2-3 people on the board are car salesmen.
With a car salesman you can negotiate a price, with the elio method, you PAY what the salesman writes up off the options list. The auto will be over $800, the destination charge is $750, the cruise will be around $250 and there will be a dealer prep charge to get your elio ready for delivery..
The salesman says, Rick, here is the deal...your brand new elio will be $9000 plus your tax, license and document fees....how do you want to pay for it????? Oh, you want to finance it, let's fill out the credit app. ok?....if you say no, the salesman says NEXT!

* Mr. Elio just doesn't wear his plaid jacket , the white tie, and the gold chains, they are in his closet at home.