Suppliers And What They Will Supply

[Johnny Acree]

Roush does a lot of stuff.

 

[Johnny Acree]

What does Technosports Creative supply to Elio Motors?

Technosports Creative is a prototype supplier to Elio Motors.

 

[Johnny Acree]

What does T.RAD supply to Elio Motors?

T.RAD North America will be supplying Elio Motors with engine cooling components: radiators, fans, etc.

TRAD’s website URL: www.tradna.com

 

[Johnny Acree]

What does Comau supply to Elio Motors?

Comau will provide the complete body shop.

 

[Johnny Acree]

OK! here is what I've been workin on

Elio Motors Suppliers

Cliff notes

ABC Fasteners and specialty hardware

Admerial Tool Steering and Pedals.

Air Boss Rubber parts.

Aisin Transmission

Anchor small to large metal stampings

Atlas precision machined crankshafts

Archimdes Fasteners

Auto Kabel Electrical wiring

Basf Paint

Bosch They have a lot of stuff, not sure what they will sell to EM

Comau provide the complete body shop.

Continental Engineering Services and Continental Contitech. Tires, ABS traction and stability control, engine ECU

Cooper Standard Sealing, fuel and brake pluming, fluid hoses and anti vibration

Creative Liquid Coatings Interior plastic parts

CW Bearings Bearings

Dana Dana does lots of stuff, but I'm guessing axles.

Delphi Delphi does lots of stuff, no idea what they will supply

Dayco Most likely belts and hoses

Eaton Mega Corp, could be any thing

EPC Camshaft

Fram Filters

Fuerda A vehicle-mounted intelligent electronic integrated control systems,
Fuerda B TPMS tire pressure sensors

GECOM door locking mechanisms

Genesee will supply all metal stamp parts and sub-assemblies

Guardian Glass

Global Auto Components unknown

Hayes Brakes?

Henkel Loctite and adhesives

Hi-Lex Control cables

Howa USA responsible for headliner development

Hyundai – Dymos Seat

IAV Engine Design

ISS Instrument sale and service.

Johnson Matthey Catalytic converter

Johnson Control Most likely, the Battery

Kenona high volume precision machining

Kiekert will supply the door latch and striker for the vehicle.

KSPG Unknown what, but it's a mega corp.

KSS Safety, seat belts and air bag

Linamar I believe Linamar will supply a complete engine.

MAE unknown

Mayco instrument panel and hard trim

Melling Probably the oil pump

MPG supply the design of an optimized powder forged connecting rods

MTX Audio

Newtech 3 will provide all of the wire harness assemblies

P&K metal body parts, chassis parts and plastic injection parts

Paslin Welding

Peterson Spring Engine Valve Train Components, Springs, Shock Absorbers, Stabilizer Bar Assembly and Wire forms.

Port City Castings

Prestone Supplies antifreeze/coolant, brake fluid and windshield washer fluid.

Red Dot Corp. HVAC

Riken Piston Rings

Roush Chassis development

Spiral Industries Tube and Hose assy.

Steel Strips Wheels

Technosports prototype supplier to Elio Motors

T.RAD Supplying Elio Motors with engine cooling components: radiators, fans

Tru-Fit Nuts and Bolts

TUPY Cast iron

Valeo Valeo is an automotive supplier and partner to automakers worldwide.

Walbro Fuel related components

Subject to change

 

[NSTG8R]

Roush does a lot of stuff.

I believe there was a Friday blog about EM bringing in Roush to tweak the front suspension. Not sure if they were going to use their expertise elsewhere though.

PS - Fantastic work on your list!!

 

[Jambe]

I may have missed it; who is supplying the software/programming?

 

[Johnny Acree]

I may have missed it; who is supplying the software/programming?

Found it!

Elio Motors Tech Talk v39
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The Brains in the Elio Engine: How the Elio Engine Management System Blends Fuel-Efficiency, Torque and Power

Last week we talked about Elio’s reasons for designing their own engine. This week we will discuss the engine management system, the “brains” of the powertrain. As we work toward reaching our target of 84 MPG, the engine management system plays a crucial role. It ensures that various engine components are working together to achieve maximum efficiency.

There are many components in the control system of the Elio Powertrain. The first is the engine control unit (ECU) which also can be incorporated into a powertrain control module (PCM). The ECU is a computer with software that controls the various subsystems on the engine. These subsystems include fuel injection, ignition, variable valve timing (VVT), throttle, exhaust gas recirculation (EGR), positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) and evaporative emissions canister (EVAP). To accomplish this task the ECU must receive many signals (information) from various sensors such as accelerator pedal position, throttle position, intake manifold air temperature, intake manifold pressure, crank position sensor, cam position sensor, oil temperature and the coolant temperature sensors.

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Figure 1: Elio ECU from Continental

The fuel injection system precisely controls the air fuel mixture at an optimized balance of engine fuel efficiency and emissions control efficiency. This control is accomplished by changing the duration of the fuel injector pulsewidth and the pressure in the fuel rail. The ignition system is comprised of coils and sparkplugs. The coils are charged (filled with electrical energy) by the ECU with low voltage (<15V) and current (<7amps for 1 – 2 milliseconds). When a spark event is needed, the coil discharges instantaneously at a very high voltage on the order of 30 kV or more. This electrical energy jumps the gap in the sparkplug and this spark ignites the air-fuel mixture.

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Figure 2: Back side of Elio engine showing sensors in orange

The crankshaft position sensor measures the crankshaft position as the engine rotates. The CAM sensor measures the camshaft position. The crank and cam positions are used to make sure the spark and fuel injectors are firing and injecting at the correct time. Once the ECU has sensor data, it then makes a calculation and outputs the correct spark timing and fuel injector pulsewidth. The calculations that take place are all about operating the engine at the best operating point.

The optimal spark time and injector time will be set during the calibration of the engine while running on a dynamometer. The calibration team will measure the burn rate, the combustion efficiency and maximum brake torque. The oil and coolant temperature sensors are used to modify the spark and injector timing based on engine operating temperatures and environmental temperatures.

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Figure 3: Front side of Elio engine showing sensor in orange

One of the potential technology features of the Elio engine is the two-step valve lift system (VVA) which uses switching tappets. The two-mode tappets allow switching between two different valve lift profiles which allows the engine to change its airflow capacity. One mode increases airflow capacity for more torque/power in city driving. The other mode decreases airflow to reduce pumping work during light load operation such as highway driving.

The switching tappet consists of two nested housings, the inner and outer housing. The inner housing is actuated by the center cam lobe while the outer housing is actuated by lobes on either side of the center lobe. The outer housing presses against a lost motion spring when the hydraulic actuation circuit is at low pressure. In this mode the center lobe determines the valve lift. Both housing parts can be linked by means of a coupling mechanism, a high pressure hydraulic chamber. In the locked condition, the high lift is transmitted via the outer housing to the valve. As in the standard tappet, valve lash adjustment can be by hydraulic or mechanical means.

The Elio engine uses a cooled Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) system. The EGR system will be used to improve fuel consumption of the engine by reducing pumping losses and lowering peak cylinder temperatures which reduces NOx emissions. When the EGR is cooled it further reduces combustion temperatures and reduces engine knocking. This enables the engine to have a high mechanical compression ratio which helps improve fuel economy and performance. The EGR system is controlled by the ECU and will allow a specific amount of EGR into the intake manifold to be distributed into the combustion chamber.

All of these elements together will result in an engine that meets our fuel efficiency requirements, but also provides performance that our customers demand. It’s not an easy balancing act, but the world-class team at IAV is making it happen.

Part three of the engine Tech Talk series will look at the machining of the Elio prototype engine.

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Copyright © 2014 Elio Motors, All rights reserved.

 

[KD]

OK! here is what I've been workin on

Elio Motors Suppliers

Cliff notes

ABC Fasteners and specialty hardware

Admerial Tool Steering and Pedals.

Air Boss Rubber parts.

Aisin Transmission

Anchor small to large metal stampings

Atlas precision machined crankshafts

Archimdes Fasteners

Auto Kabel Electrical wiring

Basf Paint

Bosch They have a lot of stuff, not sure what they will sell to EM

Comau provide the complete body shop.

Continental Engineering Services and Continental Contitech. Tires, ABS traction and stability control, engine ECU

Cooper Standard Sealing, fuel and brake pluming, fluid hoses and anti vibration

Creative Liquid Coatings Interior plastic parts

CW Bearings Bearings

Dana Dana does lots of stuff, but I'm guessing axles.

Delphi Delphi does lots of stuff, no idea what they will supply

Dayco Most likely belts and hoses

Eaton Mega Corp, could be any thing

EPC Camshaft

Fram Filters

Fuerda A vehicle-mounted intelligent electronic integrated control systems,
Fuerda B TPMS tire pressure sensors

GECOM door locking mechanisms

Genesee will supply all metal stamp parts and sub-assemblies

Guardian Glass

Global Auto Components unknown

Hayes Brakes?

Henkel Loctite and adhesives

Hi-Lex Control cables

Howa USA responsible for headliner development

Hyundai – Dymos Seat

IAV Engine Design

ISS Instrument sale and service.

Johnson Matthey Catalytic converter

Johnson Control Most likely, the Battery

Kenona high volume precision machining

Kiekert will supply the door latch and striker for the vehicle.

KSPG Unknown what, but it's a mega corp.

KSS Safety, seat belts and air bag

Linamar I believe Linamar will supply a complete engine.

MAE unknown

Mayco instrument panel and hard trim

Melling Probably the oil pump

MPG supply the design of an optimized powder forged connecting rods

MTX Audio

Newtech 3 will provide all of the wire harness assemblies

P&K metal body parts, chassis parts and plastic injection parts

Paslin Welding

Peterson Spring Engine Valve Train Components, Springs, Shock Absorbers, Stabilizer Bar Assembly and Wire forms.

Port City Castings

Prestone Supplies antifreeze/coolant, brake fluid and windshield washer fluid.

Red Dot Corp. HVAC

Riken Piston Rings

Roush Chassis development

Spiral Industries Tube and Hose assy.

Steel Strips Wheels

Technosports prototype supplier to Elio Motors

T.RAD Supplying Elio Motors with engine cooling components: radiators, fans

Tru-Fit Nuts and Bolts

TUPY Cast iron

Valeo Valeo is an automotive supplier and partner to automakers worldwide.

Walbro Fuel related components

Subject to change

This was some very nice footwork on your behalf, very nice indeed!

We still wait with baited breath that all these suppliers, and others we don't know about, will have the opportunity to make our dreams come true!

 

[raptor213]

This is what inspires me most -- Paul Elio & Company do not exist or operate in a vacuum. When they approach these Tier I/II/III suppliers and provide their pitch (likely under NDA with details none of us have ever heard before), rather than get laughed out of the conference room, these for-profit enterprises who have their own costs to manage, pennies to pinch, accounts payable to make good on, workforces to maintain, facilities to operate, widgets to produce and other projects/commitments with various partners to honor, make the business decision to jump on board with this lofty startup.

They're not naive wishful thinkers or gullible dreaming cheerleaders. They are themselves out to make a buck and represent their own financial interests when deciding to partner with Elio. They're all very likely waiting in the wings with prepared "Help Wanted" statements to post so that they can make good on whatever parts production quotas and commitments they've made with Elio Motors.

'Sure, we have the capacity to deliver _____, but we'd need to jumpstart our shuttered second shift or hire on additional skilled labor or bring in additional administrative assistants in the office or add an expansion to the warehouse or purchase more machines. Give us <insert # days> lead time and we'll be ready to roll.'

Whenever I get negative vibes about Elio, I don't ignorantly shut it all out. I do process and consider the claims on their own merits. But I always seem to fall back on the Supplier list, and it provides a sense of rationalized justification that this isn't another fraud or Ponzi scheme.