I am an Elio owner.... OK I paid a down payment. My not get a car...sorry auto-cycle, but I'm good with that. I may also put down $100 for a Sondors auto-cycle as well. I believe in what these people are doing. It is my opinion that every car maker that is vested in the current automotive production effort is scared to death that one of these 10K products will get to production. They can not compete. It breaks their product demand paradigm. No current manufacturer has a product to compete with these guys. I would stake my life that there is something going on that keeps the Elio and Sondors out of production that will someday come to light. The 400 million Elio needs is a drop in the bucket. Mark my Word.