What Side Should The Door Be On?

[wheaters]

Not clear as to what this is in response to. Plus 720 sounds like 2 complete barrel rolls. Who is Balliol? Louis Bleriot?

It was my response. The Boulton Paul Balliol was a short lived, post World War Two RAF trainer.

The aircraft torque rolled through 720 degrees around its longitudinal axis, they were not barrel rolls. In the dark, of its own volition, only just above the runway, with my old pal Jim as its passenger, rather than its pilot.

(Barrel rolls are so called because the aircraft flies as if it is flying spirally around the inside of a barrel, in one end and out of the other).

 

[goldwing06]

It was my response. The Boulton Paul Balliol was a short lived, post World War Two RAF trainer.

The aircraft torque rolled through 720 degrees around its longitudinal axis, they were not barrel rolls. In the dark, of its own volition, only just above the runway, with my old pal Jim as its passenger, rather than its pilot.

(Barrel rolls are so called because the aircraft flies as if it is flying spirally around the inside of a barrel, in one end and out of the other).

one last comment on engine torque, toward the end of ww2, large ice for aircraft had developed to the zenith of the technology for the era and were about to get very expensive for peacetime application but one last attempt to get the most effiencey, counter rotating props started to show up on several models of single engine ac. besides being more effecent, it solved the dangerous torque issue. it was a short lived solution because the jet age came along.

 

[trock59]

For the record, Im in favor of having the door on the side. Either one.

If the frame is designed for two doors that would be my top choice for a body option - move shifter to column(amt) or paddles(manual) then in summer I could remove both doors for more road feel!

 

[goldwing06]

If the frame is designed for two doors that would be my top choice for a body option - move shifter to column(amt) or paddles(manual) then in summer I could remove both doors for more road feel!

you don't feel that removing the doors gives up a margin of safety?

 

[wheaters]

one last comment on engine torque, toward the end of ww2, large ice for aircraft had developed to the zenith of the technology for the era and were about to get very expensive for peacetime application but one last attempt to get the most effiencey, counter rotating props started to show up on several models of single engine ac. besides being more effecent, it solved the dangerous torque issue. it was a short lived solution because the jet age came along.

We also had the Shackleton, which was a development of the Lancaster bomber. It had RR Griffon engines with contra rotating props. Four of them, plus a couple of jet booster engines on some variants. They remained in service for most of my RAF time. Ironically, Rolls Royce's own Mk 14 Spitfire, which lives in the hangar 50 yards from the aircraft I fly for my living, has a Griffon engine from one of these. They had to obtain a special casting for the front of the engine to convert it to a single propellor.

 

[goldwing06]

We also had the Shackleton, which was a development of the Lancaster bomber. It had RR Griffon engines with contra rotating props. Four of them, plus a couple of jet booster engines on some variants. They remained in service for most of my RAF time. Ironically, Rolls Royce's own Mk 14 Spitfire, which lives in the hangar 50 yards from the aircraft I fly for my living, has a Griffon engine from one of these. They had to obtain a special casting for the front of the engine to convert it to a single propellor.

well, if u could find the time to take and post a pix of it, i 4 1 would be grateful. sounds like there are a few air heads on this forum that would also. after all, there isn't a bunch of elio stuff going on right now.

 

[JEBar]

I like the door on the left for two reasons : 1) I wouldn't like having to crawl over the gear shift which will properly be place on the right when getting in and out .... 2) if I got in on the right side I'd probably forget I'm supposed to be the driver ..

Jim

 

[tazairforce]

well, if u could find the time to take and post a pix of it, i 4 1 would be grateful. sounds like there are a few air heads on this forum that would also. after all, there isn't a bunch of elio stuff going on right now.

There!!
Some one finally came out and said it.
'sounds like there are a few air heads on this forum. after all, there isn't a bunch of elio stuff going on right now.
I read the whole post, just picked out the best parts to copy.LOL
Paul and company have picked the only logical side to put 'That Door' as well as the gas cap, which is on the 'Out Side'. lol Yep! I feel a breeze in my head, I think it's caused by 'Elio Trivia Overload'.

 

[wheaters]

well, if u could find the time to take and post a pix of it, i 4 1 would be grateful. sounds like there are a few air heads on this forum that would also. after all, there isn't a bunch of elio stuff going on right now.

I just happened to take pictures this summer.

 

[Lil4X]

Counter-rotating props are a great idea for getting power out of a big engine, but it's not without drawbacks.

1. Most obviously, they are LOUD. As each blade passes through the wake of its mate, the resulting "pop" becomes a roar.

2. There is a real potential for disaster in event of a gearbox failure. Imagine two props turning in opposite directions; if the gearset that provides the opposing rotation locks up, there's a strong probability the whole mechanism will explode into prop blades as they depart the hub, and the remainder of the hub disintegrates into small parts, better known as shrapnel.