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LOL!.............idea for a personalized plate on my FUV: MYTHBSTR
There you go!. With all seriousness though, I know how capital strapped EM are at the moment but they don't have nothing to lose if they put the P4 or the P5 with whatever engine it has right now (Geo engine, etc.), test it at the track and put the results out there for the world to see live on video, if they can come close to the 84 mpg with a borrowed engine without the ELIO falling apart in the process, it will erase any doubts in everybody's mind that with a proper powertrain, they can achieve or even exceed 84mpg. That should revive interest on this ELIO project. After marketing the ELIO successfully, business people and consumers wants RESULTS not more friday blogs.;)
 

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Winter Driving Tips
January 25, 2019



Happy Friday Elio’ers! As January is coming to a close, many of us are beginning to pine for warmer weather. After the east coast was hammered by a severe snow storm, it looks like a big storm is set to hit the upper Midwest. According to the U.S. Department of Transportation, “Over 70 percent of the nation’s roads are located in snowy regions, which receive more than five inches (or 13 cm) average snowfall annually. Nearly 70 percent of the U.S. population lives in these snowy regions.” If you’re in that 70% of Americans that have to deal with winter snow storms, this blog is for you, as we are going to provide some helpful tips on how to drive safely in these conditions.



Here’s a list of some of the most helpful tips when encountering icy roads:

  1. When you get into your vehicle, always make sure to buckle up and that everyone in the car follows suit before turning the key. Of course, you want to do this in perfect weather too, but the stakes are higher when encountering rough roads.
  2. You want to make sure that your tires are properly inflated and that you have at least a half tank of gas so the gas line doesn’t freeze.
  3. Make sure to not make sudden starts and stops. AAA advises “Applying the gas slowly to accelerate is the best method for regaining traction and avoiding skids. Don’t try to get moving in a hurry. And take time to slow down for a stoplight. Remember: It takes longer to slow down on icy roads.”
  4. As a general rule, you’ll want to drive slower than you would under normal conditions and allow for more time to stop. “The normal dry pavement following distance of three to four seconds should be increased to eight to ten seconds. This increased margin of safety will provide the longer distance needed if you have to stop.”
  5. If it’s snowing, avoid using cruise control.
  6. When driving in the snow, it’s important to know if your vehicle is front wheel or rear wheel drive. Generally, a front wheeled vehicle like the Elio is preferable in the snow because most of the weight is placed over the drive wheels. Edmunds has this advice when it comes to encountering a front wheel skid, “Smoothly release the accelerator, leave your hands where they are and allow the car to slow down. Turning the steering wheel more or pushing the brake pedal is like using a cancelled credit card: It does nothing good and may do something bad if the traction suddenly returns.”
  7. S. News and World Reports had this to say regarding rear wheeled drive vehicles in the snow, “Rear-wheel drive vehicles are tougher to control when they do lose traction. When front-wheel drive vehicles experience wheel spin, they tend to understeer – you turn the wheel, but the car keeps going forward. If a rear-wheel drive car loses traction, there’s more of a propensity to oversteer (where the back end slides out to the side) or fishtail (when it sways from side to side.)” Consensus? Take the front wheel drive vehicle over the rear any day in the event of a snowstorm.
  8. What about all-wheel drive? According to Consumer Reports, “All-wheel drive is far better than two-wheel drive when it comes to driving on slick surfaces where you need serious traction to get going, such as a snowy uphill driveway. But our tests found that all-wheel drive by itself won’t help if you’re heading too fast toward a sudden sharp curve on a snowy night.”
Thanks for your support and have a spectacular weekend!
 

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Winter Driving Tips
January 25, 2019



Happy Friday Elio’ers! As January is coming to a close, many of us are beginning to pine for warmer weather. After the east coast was hammered by a severe snow storm, it looks like a big storm is set to hit the upper Midwest. According to the U.S. Department of Transportation, “Over 70 percent of the nation’s roads are located in snowy regions, which receive more than five inches (or 13 cm) average snowfall annually. Nearly 70 percent of the U.S. population lives in these snowy regions.” If you’re in that 70% of Americans that have to deal with winter snow storms, this blog is for you, as we are going to provide some helpful tips on how to drive safely in these conditions.



Here’s a list of some of the most helpful tips when encountering icy roads:

  1. When you get into your vehicle, always make sure to buckle up and that everyone in the car follows suit before turning the key. Of course, you want to do this in perfect weather too, but the stakes are higher when encountering rough roads.
  2. You want to make sure that your tires are properly inflated and that you have at least a half tank of gas so the gas line doesn’t freeze.
  3. Make sure to not make sudden starts and stops. AAA advises “Applying the gas slowly to accelerate is the best method for regaining traction and avoiding skids. Don’t try to get moving in a hurry. And take time to slow down for a stoplight. Remember: It takes longer to slow down on icy roads.”
  4. As a general rule, you’ll want to drive slower than you would under normal conditions and allow for more time to stop. “The normal dry pavement following distance of three to four seconds should be increased to eight to ten seconds. This increased margin of safety will provide the longer distance needed if you have to stop.”
  5. If it’s snowing, avoid using cruise control.
  6. When driving in the snow, it’s important to know if your vehicle is front wheel or rear wheel drive. Generally, a front wheeled vehicle like the Elio is preferable in the snow because most of the weight is placed over the drive wheels. Edmunds has this advice when it comes to encountering a front wheel skid, “Smoothly release the accelerator, leave your hands where they are and allow the car to slow down. Turning the steering wheel more or pushing the brake pedal is like using a cancelled credit card: It does nothing good and may do something bad if the traction suddenly returns.”
  7. S. News and World Reports had this to say regarding rear wheeled drive vehicles in the snow, “Rear-wheel drive vehicles are tougher to control when they do lose traction. When front-wheel drive vehicles experience wheel spin, they tend to understeer – you turn the wheel, but the car keeps going forward. If a rear-wheel drive car loses traction, there’s more of a propensity to oversteer (where the back end slides out to the side) or fishtail (when it sways from side to side.)” Consensus? Take the front wheel drive vehicle over the rear any day in the event of a snowstorm.
  8. What about all-wheel drive? According to Consumer Reports, “All-wheel drive is far better than two-wheel drive when it comes to driving on slick surfaces where you need serious traction to get going, such as a snowy uphill driveway. But our tests found that all-wheel drive by itself won’t help if you’re heading too fast toward a sudden sharp curve on a snowy night.”
Thanks for your support and have a spectacular weekend!

Good grief, winter driving tips? They have hit a new low for the blog I daresay. Guess you can only recycle material so many times before it isn't worth the effort anymore.

I want to believe, but am afraid it is waning with every passing week with absolutely NO pertinent intel...
 

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They forgot a few things for winter tips (point #9 should have been Point #1):

9. Snow Tires. No matter if you have 4WD, FWD or RWD snow tires drastically increase the overall amount of grip over all season and summer tires. This will help with stopping, cornering and when you need to start moving or getting around another stuck car. We suggest if you are one of the 70%, that you buy an extra set of wheels and mount up a set of snow tires to have them ready at any time.

10. Carry a safety kit in your trunk. Having supplies like a reflective triangle, first aid, energy bars, tape, flashlight and bottled water are good things to have if you get stuck on a highway and are barricaded in by traffic and can't get around. You could be there for 24 hours and need to be prepared.

you have at least a half tank of gas so the gas line doesn’t freeze

This statement only applies if you have a car from the 1980's or earlier that has a carburetor. They days of freezing gas lines is a thing of the past and especially since every car has a fuel pump in the tank. If you have that much water in the tank, you'll have many other problems before it freezes.

If it’s snowing, avoid using cruise control.
This is true but if you have ACC (automatic cruise control) it's actually very safe and especially in the snow since you can set the distance in front of you and it'll warn you if someone has slowed down way too fast and you can't really see the tail lights because of the snow.

Other than that, some really good tips and good to see Elio looking after their customers. Especially when they will be getting their new Elio and wondering about what to do in the winter. I just wanted to add two more points because I know that those two items are very helpful in the snow and even when I go to ski country I want an excessive amount of snow. Some areas will require you to have snow tires too.
 

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I too, was frustrated by last Friday's blog. So, I emailed EM. Below are what I typed and what EM typed.


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jwacree

Jan 26, 14:18 EST

I do appreciate the weekly up dates,,but, come on, we know how to drive in the snow. We know there is nothing new to say about the autocycle, and you can't give details about fund raising, but what about the processes of fund raising. Like what goes on at Drexel Hamilton LLC. Do they have a list of 10,000 investors they are calling and have called about half of them with about 25% of them giving a favorable response. Then what about Paul and the Elio team, what are they doing, in general terms. Like, Paul was on the road this week, he had 5, 1 on 1 meetings.
Mostly venting, but also hoping you can share something.


The Elio Customer Experience Team (Elio Motors)

Jan 28, 12:20 EST

Thanks for the note and the passion. We have discussed many of your ideas and have been advised not to share any of the progress on the fundraising as there are many legal obstacles and pitfalls that we do not want to approach. We will keep working to share more information with you all moving forward.
Make sure to check out our blog at www.eliomotors.com/blog

Thank you,
The Elio Team

The silver lining,,, I Emailed Saturday and got a response today (Monday) that's pretty fast, I think.
 

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With zTero up and running, last thing Elio needs to do is ruin the whole ElioCoin thing with a release that will get them in trouble with the SEC.

They could just talk about some of the engineering that went into the car as that's of no violation of the SEC at all. I'd personally like to see all of the updates on the front suspension because what they show in CAD is not what they show on the Black Elio. Plus some rear suspension info.
 

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What ever happened to the one they set to Washington for the air conditioning?
Is it still there or did they pick it up?

This link here was the last time it was brought up...

https://www.eliomotors.com/the-elio-hvac-testing-update-elio-momentum-v76/

So it sounded like Elio was overall pleased with the test, while acknowledging some stuff might need to be improved. I would assume Elio got it back to make adjustments on the car itself.

With that said, Ty’s post reminded me that the E1a was sent to Continental and we’ve heard nothing of it since.

So I sent Elio an email and just got a reply...

Title: A topic for a future update, if at all possible...

Body: I realize that there's a lot that you can't talk about due to NDA's or getting knocked by the SEC, but I was wondering... is it possible to go into any further details about the E-Series vehicles you guys sent off to various places? For example, you did a blog about E1d, how it performed overall, ETC. But we never heard much more about the E1a... there was video of the white trike handed off to Continental for brake work, but nothing else. How'd that go?

Are either of those trikes being used by Roush to implement the new power-train?

I would love it if the answer is yes, because I think this type of content would garner some new positive word of mouth, but again, I understand fully if for various reasons you cannot discuss even that. I just know the type of blogs that have been put out lately has soured some of the Elio Groups I hang out in, so was trying to think of stuff you could talk about to gain excitement back up.

In any event, thanks for reading, hope you all have a great week and much success in getting funding!

Elio’s Reply:

Elio Motors Customer Service(Elio Motors)

Jan 29, 14:38 EST

Thanks for your great feedback Ryan- we've passed it along to the right people!
Best,
The Elio Team



They didn’t tell me they couldn’t talk about it... so here’s hoping for a more informative blog in the future!
 
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