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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    "We" consists of the current board members. After that, the accountants and engineers that work for Elio Motors. They still work for the company and thus are grinding away to get the funding needed. So all is well and "we" are grinding away. That's ll we need to know. If Elio did not answer...
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    Arcimoto

    Vanderhall did it in half the time. yet no celebration for that. I assumed that when you went for your test drive in the Vanderhall, you would have been posting about it and how they made it to the finish line in 50% of the time over FUV.
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    Arcimoto

    RickB has been telling us for months for his FUV. Yet somehow his FUV delivery ended up becoming a list of excuses. Everything from the NHTSA lighting issues to the doors to now that he is waiting for the correct financial time in his life that he can get that $20K FUV. When you boast about the...
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    Arcimoto

    I have no experience with the FUV because they are not available in my area for a test drive. Thus you can post 1k pics of happy customers but that doesn’t mean a thing when you can’t experience it. I am glad you did a test drive in a Vanderhall as at least we can compare notes. Thus why you...
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    Arcimoto

    That looks like someone just forcing the issue where they love their FUV right now but in a year will have given up on that method of package delivery. Plus, what happens when it rains? Do all of those boxes stay dry? I bet they do not.
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    It is closing at $0.53. It got propped back up today with 100 shares, so all is well.
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Answering each individual email takes time away from fundraising. So that's why they have not answered you with a personal reply. Instead, just check the blog for the latest updates: https://www.eliomotors.com/blog/ Then for the latest on the Eliocoin: http://www.eliocoin.com/ Here's another...
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    Arcimoto

    Then the thing is, how far away is the closest FUV dealer? We all know there is just one and you only drive it on a Wednesday or Thursday between 2 and 4 in the afternoon. For the Niken, it's too much of a motorcycle and only an autocycle in the theory, that it has three wheels. In Europe it's...
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Maybe Elio Motors has stopped using that mail service and thus just going to Elio Motors official mailing address would get a better response. Plus I wonder if Elio Motors changed their email settings or if some peoples emails accidentally went into the spam folder. That can explain the lack of...
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    Arcimoto

    I looked it up. San Antionio has a Vanderhall Dealer and it's a Certified Service center. They have five Vanderhalls in stock and you can test drive them for free. It's actually called the "Alamo Cycle Plex". They are even a Slingshot Dealer. Found out they have two used Slingshots in stock. It...
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    Arcimoto

    Thanks for showing that. Same demographic. Play toy for the weekend when the weather is perfect.
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    You have to remember, Hyundai Glovis is leasing part of the plant. So the whole property is not just sitting there empty. Plus Hyundai is using the majority of the parking lot for storage and keeping the rail line active. So, nobody is going to demolish the plant. Plus, look at the amount of...
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    They sent that letter to the wrong address. Elio Motors address is here on the AZ Department of Corporations: https://ecorp.azcc.gov/BusinessSearch/BusinessInfo?entityNumber=15610344 It shows that it's active and in good standing.
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    Arcimoto

    What's the difference in the customer base? Both are fair weather three wheelers built for a niche audience. Both are an "and" vehicle. The Vanderhall is $25K and the FUV is $20K. So similar in price. I am not seeing where they are going after a different customer base. Vanderhall is a private...
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    Arcimoto

    Honestly, the FUV must be compared to the Vanderhall. Both are fair weather vehicles. Both are three wheelers. Both are startups. Big difference is Vanderhall somehow got to market with customer deliverables way faster than FUV. Makes you wonder if Mark F is not that good at running a business...
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    Arcimoto

    He has the Z4 Smile. Same one I had when I bought my Z4. I was going to show how my Z4 could be driven all year. I smiled, cranked up the heat to full and still had to suit up. I showed that my ZUV was so much fun, I was going to make you see it. Then a year passed and I did the two choices that...
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    Adjusted For Inflation

    I did forget what needs to be added onto that $433M. There's the $7.5M fine and the ongoing cost of $261,204 per month for lease and equipment payments. Whatever that has added up to right now is at least another $3M. The $433M is more like $444M.
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Don't forget about Hyundai Glovis. They lease part of the plant and use about 80% of the parking. So he can't let it go to pot. Elio made a smart move though. December 2013 was the start of the lease for the plant. That was for 997,375 sq ft for $244,344. That resulted in 48 months of payments...
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Definately. When GM was going to shut down that plant, they did keep it up to top notch shape. Only what it took to get whatever production they needed. Then add into that, ticked off employees that tend to sabotage equipment right at the end. From there 8 years of just sitting just ends up...
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    The robots are worth lots of money. They can even be reprogrammed and updated. That would be the least of my worries if I had that plant and equipment.
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