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I'd buy those chips but I also need high in fiber, full days supply of vitamin C and part of a complete breakfast.

I guess it really comes down to how long you want to wait? So, when you first heard about the Elio, what did they tell you the production date was going to be?

I guess that makes sense. An Evergreen costs $20K and you can by lots of cars for that price. There's not as much of a selection but the same for the SOLO. When it comes to range, who'd want something that goes 100 miles on a tank and pay $5K more? So I hear you. Pay $5K less, get 4X the mileage...

There's always the Polaris and Vanderhall option for the people that must have a three wheeler. This past weekend, I took a test drive of a Vanderhall Speedster. This is because Vanderhall just opened up yet another dealer in our area. The only problem is it costs a fortune at $27K (you can buy...

We need to support all three wheelers. The more the better because it'll show consumer acceptance. That's good news for everyone.

Easy. Elio is like the 100+ other applicants for the ATVM loan that got rejected or companies stopped trying. Elio applied for it twice. It's been 8 years since the last loan and Elio motors stopped paying their ATVM loan guy a few years ago. It's a broken loan program and I wish the current...

So, when do you get yours?

How can they be BS. It would be like saying Elio Motors plans are BS. As we know they are not. So we have to accept Apteras plans as presented. If we didn't, then we would not support any startups. That would be bad for America and for the jobs that these companies will produce.

Here's the official Aptera Crowdfunding page. This is where I've been getting my information from. So, it's a good read. Shows the crash testing, where the money is going and the return on investment. They even talk about the $400M ATVM loan that they didn't get. In the end, $21,070,000 will get...

I never seen they needed to raise $2.5M. I did read they needed to raise $100K to $1,070,000. If they raise the $1,070,000 then they need another $20M to get to production. All of that is on their fundraising page. It literally says on their page "$135,069 of $100,000 - $1,070,000 goal from 260...

That would be Roush. They can 3D print the parts needed and limit the tinkering around. After that print up 10 sets of Elio parts and make the Elio Signature Series and sell them for $50K each. When people see that, the investors might come rolling in. Look what Roush does...

Pat did mention a while back that they were recoding the Eliocoin and it would be done at the end of the year. So we have a few more months. As for the pre sale, haven't heard a thing. There is this: https://stomarket.com/sto/elio-motors-elio and this: http://www.eliocoin.com/

In 2 years if someone gets the STL file for the Elio body and uses it's basic dimensions, you could build one for $10K. All you'd need is a mid 90's Geo Metro as the donor car.

Because that's where the money is to be made and it's the future. You'd be amazed how much money is being dumped into 3D printing and all of the car manufacturers are getting in on it. Soon they will get the volume up to where they can mass produce items. I look at it as in 5 years it'll be...

What I'd do is just keep it going for another 2 years. If funding shows up, then great, if not then no big deal. I'd just set up a shell company that does not have the Elio name attached. That company buys only the intellectual rights for ten cents on the dollar. With all debt/fines/former...

I look at it as the decision to not communicate with the people that invested in the company is a move that just reduces the amount of trust people have with Elio Motors. At one time there were more forums and social media sites that were all about the Elio. Most have shuttered, been stagnant or...

Aptera is now funded and they will be building prototypes. So folks, we will have something to see soon. I see they even crash tested it already, so that's a big bonus.

Best part is, the Aptera will be 3D printed. So when they get on the road and people are going a week without plugging in, then they can change the body a bit to accept solar panels. I'd then expect the mileage will go up even more. Maybe 1500 miles.

This is exactly my point I brought up a while back. Elio has pretty much set the attitude for three wheeler startups that rely on public investment. I feel bad for the other three wheeler startups because they now have a much harder time getting to production. I bet this is one of the reasons...

I'm only reporting the numbers that Aptera provides. That's all. With the numbers they have, it'll be a hit with investors. Think about it. If you had a $2000 investment and got $3200 two years later then another $18,300 the following year, wouldn't that be a great investment? I'm wondering of...