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    It's Official . Paul Has Let Me Down

    I suggest everyone read what a "forward looking statement" is. In reference to the "promise of 25 cars because of the IPO, Elio has this on the bottom of every press release: "Forward-Looking Statements Certain statements in this press release including, but not limited to, statements related...
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    It's Official . Paul Has Let Me Down

    I just read this article that came across my news feed. Yet someone that doesn't know how to read or take the refundable option. Paul says that production possibly for late 2019. So don't give up, it's 20-23 months from now to possibly happening...
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    It's Official . Paul Has Let Me Down

    Just Paul. He will be doing that every few days.
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    Autonomous Next Year

    To make all of you old timers even more worried. College students are designing self driving cars. They even have a competition and the most interesting part is that it's not that far from the Elio R&D center in Phoenix. I'm wondering of Elio is secretly going to make their car come out with no...
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    It's Official . Paul Has Let Me Down

    Not if you are parked behind it.
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    Sondors Electric Car

    You bring up a number of good points. I agree.
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    It's Official . Paul Has Let Me Down

    If it's mostly off the shelf parts, then I'd love to know what they are. From what i see, it's all custom designed parts and of the "off the shelf" parts, that's what other manufacturers. Case in point, a Ford F150 and a BMW 335d use the same transmission but they are not interchangeable. You'd...
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    It's Official . Paul Has Let Me Down

    That car is great until you get a rack of ribs.
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    Sondors Electric Car

    Arcimoto will sell well in warm coastal areas and especially in retirement communities. Then they will do OK in urban areas but that they really need to do is work out a deal like they have in Europe for urban areas. For example in Paris, they have electric car sharing with things that look like...
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    It's Official . Paul Has Let Me Down

    Think about it. The Elio goes 672 miles on a tank of gas. So you can make 650 miles without a worry in the world. That would be like going from Elio Global HQ in Phoenix to the Elio Global Manufacturing Campus in Shreveport and only having to stop once for gas. I can't see why you'd need A/C for...
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    Sondors Electric Car

    You bring up a good point. I can't find anything where Elio has stated any production number at all and nothing of what they need to do as a minimal number. They give what the cost of an Elio was back in August but nothing as to if they only need to make one or a million. It would be helpful if...
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    It's Official . Paul Has Let Me Down

    A Citroen 2CV doesn't need AC either. Just pop open the two front vents and open those side windows and you are set. It's like being on the French Riveria (even the seats are like a beach chair).
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    Sondors Electric Car

    Actually the challenges are different. For Elio, it's literally building a car like everyone else does but you are trying to do it for your first product. For a company like Arcimoto, they are building a product no different than Yamaha, Polaris, Suzuki etc. It's a much simpler design with less...
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    Autonomous Next Year

    How about backdate the technology to the point where no modern hacker would know what to do? I like it because they even include an ice cream maker in the car. I sure loved what we were able to do in 1976.
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    Sondors Electric Car

    You comparing apples to oranges. Motorcycle business is different than selling a 3 wheeler. Everyone knows what a motorcycle is, but the Arcimoto does look like an overgrown golf cart. In the end, that will be a hard image to overcome. I suspect that there will be great demand in the beginning...
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    It's Official . Paul Has Let Me Down

    You need to stretch out the word moron. Something like mow-ron.
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    Autonomous Next Year

    I have a working title, Maximum Overdrive 2.0: Autonomous machines take over.
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    Sondors Electric Car

    Well that's good. So around 2000 for 12 months. Looking at 2K per year makes sense and I could see maybe a high of 5K of the economy is right. I can see that as a company like Polaris, Yamaha, Suzuki, or Honda could go from thinking about a three wheeler to production in about 12 months. Even...
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    Sondors Electric Car

    You bring up a good point. So, Solo is on #27. and the SRK is at #6. I now want to know, how long has it taken from #1 to #27 for the Solo and then for #1 to #6? Plus, I want to leave out the company cars because that's just an R&D trick to get "customers" to test out your product yet they...
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    Sondors Electric Car

    I had to Google the guy because have no idea who he is. You bring up a good point. #1 goes to some sort of famous guy that means, they will literally give him the white glove treatment on anything that goes wrong. As most of these deals go, what he advertised that he paid for and what he paid...
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