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    Funding Refused By Paul Elio

    Too bad Roush does not discuss anything with anybody. So, they will not discuss the top secret stuff they are doing for Elio just like they will not when they are doing something for any other customer. Unless you are a paid employee or approved supplier from a particular customer, they will not...
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    Funding Refused By Paul Elio

    What I'm bringing up is that it's not a linear relationship. Half the width is double the mileage makes no sense because of things like - Overall efficiency of ICE - Overall efficiency of transmissions - Overall efficiency of wheels/tires - Aerodynamics There as many other losses that are...
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    I would add: Poisoning the well with fixed pricing and discounts for most of the reservations
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    The SEC filings explain it all. Here's an example from the stock offering to just 22 months later. In November 2015 (for the stock offering), Elio had a $5,654 BOM for 125K units or $5,132 for 250K. All at a price of $7,600 but they were targeting $6,800. They were to build 25 prototypes and...
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    Funding Refused By Paul Elio

    As an engineer I want to see proof that it can get the claimed mileage and be built at that cost but still make a profit so the workers can get paid. Then for Elio to make enough money, to not be out of business 6 months after production starts. At this point, there's zero proof that it can be...
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    Funding Refused By Paul Elio

    I think that trying to do gas and electric is a bad idea. It's way too complex to successfully integrate the two for mass production. You have to pick one and currently, investment is into electric. With mass production you are not in the business to please a few. That's why we have the niche...
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    Funding Refused By Paul Elio

    The cheapest 4 wheeler is the 2020 Chevy Spark. That's $13,220. With just over 21K priced at $5500 ($7K locked in, $1K already spent and $500 discount) then this isn't counting the $7300 locked in with their discounts and deposit already being paid. Elio has an ironclad contract that they must...
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    Arcimoto

    I was on the trip back to the US and seen that the one thread is gone when I got back. I assume it must have turned into an Elio bashing fest after i posted Elio facts. Hopefully people can look at the facts as opposed to dreams and anger.
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    How This Radical Car Missed Its Chance To Change The World - Maybe!

    Get full funding today, then production starts on March 10, 2021.
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    Aptera

    I'm just looking at what they are telling investors. That's what we need to look at as opposed to optioning it out the way we want it to be. Just like Elio, they have the best of the best and would never give the investors the wrong numbers because that would be lying. Of Aptera, no solar...
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    Aptera

    Please provide some links because I find nothing of this at all. When I say that, I'm talking about the current Aptera, not the previous version that is dead and has been dead for years. The current Aptera is 1000 miles with no ICE at all. If this is current news, then I want to see it as I will...
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    Arcimoto

    Do you have solar panels? It would be pretty cool if you did and then use them to recharge it (it doesn't have to be an exclusive charger). I wonder how long it takes to recharge (obviously it depends on the amp service). The reality is you will have to stop driving it sometime to finish up the...
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    Arcimoto

    Be careful. When you pick yours up, she might just stay with Markamoto and then you'll be on your own with your FUV. Then you'll have to go to the beach, plug in an air fryer into the FUV and make some wings. Looking cool with some good eats. That will get you the babes. If not, you will not go...
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    Arcimoto

    They got the red one and grey one done. So when’s your FUV going to walk the line? Also, what color is it?
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    Friday Blog Is Out

    Elio Motors demonstrated their communication plan in May 2018. When they got the $2.5M and officially announced Eliocoin, they did some key announcements. First one was to have a blog showing the blue chip suppliers all in a room and ready to get back to work on the Elio (instilling confidence...
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    Friday Blog Is Out

    Apart from the title change, here's the differences between old and new: Old: Is it just us or did the last two weeks seem to fly by? The closing ceremony of the Winter Olympics will take place on Sunday. The US may not have piled up the medals like we have in the past, but we’re still...
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    Paul Elio Speaks! 05-11-18

    With this being a Paul Elio speaks and I'm sitting in the Tokyo airport, I got some time. I noticed that there's not too much left when it comes to Elio Motors on the internet. So, maybe it would be a good idea for the stockholders and reservationists to show a little love for Paul. This would...
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    Paul Elio Speaks! 05-11-18

    We are adults. We figured it out and now can go on. It's nice to see such great people here. Let's keep it going.
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    Arcimoto

    Best thing is, Rick has invited us to his house for a week in October to have a FUV PARTY! His wife said it was OK and we can crash there for as long as we like. Reverse burnout donuts in a FUV are in order!
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