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    Does The Elio Make Sense As An "and" Car?

    That would have been January 3, 2013. I guess you watched this video and were excited especially at the 8:34 mark and then the next minute which got you excited. 18 months that they will be doing it and by the end of the decade, they will be exporting them.
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    Helmet Laws, Etc.

    I can tell you what will happen. Elio starts to sell 125K to 250K units per year. Of the few states that make you have a M class license will adopt what the rest have and a non M can drive it. The post that was given was from three years ago and Elio motors went to bat for Polaris and got things...
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    Would This Fuel End Elios Future?

    Cellulose fuel has been around a while In the ALMS, Corvette started using a mix of 85% Gasoline and 15% Cellulose Fuel (ethanol) back in 2008. It works but the issue is the same with anything that uses Ethanol. It takes twice as much as gasoline to do the same amount of work. So, your Elio will...
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    Does The Elio Make Sense As An "and" Car?

    Remember, it took 52 months to get to 65K reservations. If 65K would have happened in 2013, then that would have been a great boost for the company to get proper funding. That comes down to 1,250/month or 15K/year. Then it went to a trickle. Remember, we now have the beginning of people that put...
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    Does The Elio Make Sense As An "and" Car?

    I've been in the Elio twice. For the driver, it has plenty of room, as for the passenger, that's a toss up. On the second sitting for an Elio, I ended up getting in the back and had someone get in the front, adjust it and then shut the door. I could live back there but I don't think it would be...
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    Elio, Dept Of Energy Funding And Political Action

    I don't know of anyone that does that. It's literally the opposite. It's all of the good points and what Elio has done, is hit on many of those for a long time. They have every reason why it's the car for everyone and why everyone needs to buy it. The investors are the ones that open up the...
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    How This Radical Car Missed Its Chance To Change The World - Maybe!

    I was looking at the specs and just like the 84/49 mpg and $7450 price gets thrown around, then I was going to just assume the weight along the same thought process. I did see that the Slingshot was 1,743 lbs. The Slingshot is a steel tube frame and uses a larger engine but it has an aluminum...
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    Does The Elio Make Sense As An "and" Car?

    I'm just thinking the same way Paul Elio does. He's expecting to sell Elios for $10,769 average price (as per what he said). So, he's counting on the Elio owner to not just buy the bare bones model but to add $2,324 in options and $995 more if they want an auto. For every bare bones model, there...
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    How This Radical Car Missed Its Chance To Change The World - Maybe!

    When I was looking up some information about the Vanderhall and headlight, I found something that makes no sense. We all know the Vanderhall is a 3 wheeler, aluminum chassis, carbon fiber body, has no airbags, basic comforts and pretty much half a windscreen and no other windows. The weight of...
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    Does The Elio Make Sense As An "and" Car?

    That's great you are thrifty but you are not the customer that Elio is looking for. They are looking for the average customer where they can make money on. I could talk about how much money I save all day long but in the end, I'm not the average consumer. So I'm the niche. Sounds like you are...
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    Helmet Laws, Etc.

    The Slingshot has a center light too. The Vanderhall has two that look like they are close enough together that it must meet the requirements. So, I wonder if the Elio is in the same boat as the Vanderhall because they have no center mounted light.
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    Helmet Laws, Etc.

    Here's what Polaris has to say: https://slingshot.polaris.com/en-us/license-requirements/
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    How This Radical Car Missed Its Chance To Change The World - Maybe!

    Can we change "views" to "reservations"?
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    Does The Elio Make Sense As An "and" Car?

    I've always had a spare car. I work on them myself. Over the last 30 years I've tracked the cost of keeping that spare as opposed to not having it. In the end, it costs more vs the mileage and time I keep them as opposed to just having one. Since the spare car ends up being the older one, it's...
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    How This Radical Car Missed Its Chance To Change The World - Maybe!

    Also, there's another engine that could go into the Elio from GM. It's the 1.3l Turbo that will go into the Korean Malibu for 2019. http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/11/2019-chevy-malibu-gets-all-new-1-3l-turbo-three-cylinder-engine-in-south-korea/
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    Does The Elio Make Sense As An "and" Car?

    That's not correct. You need to look at overall maintenance costs of the two. In the end it's higher because even though you are not driving the #1 car as much, it will still require upkeep that has nothing to do with mileage. People believe that if they park the car that it just sits and...
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    How This Radical Car Missed Its Chance To Change The World - Maybe!

    No way an engine would be half the price of the Elio. That guy is looking at MSRP for buying one engine and making that judgement. If Elio expects to sell 125K/year and they only sell 20K/year, the price will go up. I have worked with a place that makes tankers trailers for the compressed air...
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    Does The Elio Make Sense As An "and" Car?

    People end up having an "and" fridge. It's that when they do, it's usually one they got for free and stick it in the garage because they need more space. In the end, it costs them a pretty penny because it sits in a hot garage in the summer and pretty much had to run constantly to keep those...
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    Does The Elio Make Sense As An "and" Car?

    You have to look at the real cost to buy an Elio for the average person. Let's look at some numbers: Elio: $10,700 Tax (6%): $642 Shipping: $600 (using an average for shipping cars) Fees: $100 (There will always be a paperwork fee) License: $25 Total: $12,067 Then you have insurance. I've...
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    Harley-davidson Electric Bikes

    I found the Vanderhall, Tanom Invader, Shotwell, Rocket II Trike, Davis Divian, T-Rex, Piaggio, Shotwell, Aptera and V-13R as the 3 wheelers that have been on Jay's show since the beginning. I can't find the Elio episode though.
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