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    Legal: Motorcycle License And Helmet Laws

    This vehicle falls in a murky grey area of the law that is not even firmly established yet. Might be surprised how easy laws change when it means more money for the state and when insurance lobbys have an interest in the matter. My state can't even be consistent with scooter reqistrations and...
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    Elio Lighting (head, Tail, Brake, Signal, Fog, Auxiliary, Blinking,etc...)

    Comparing anything to the production LED products that are on the market is going to mislead because they are just ridiculously priced. LED's are cheap, electronic components are cheap, but package them together in a finished product and they want a fortune. What gives? I've built a number of...
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    Elio Lighting (head, Tail, Brake, Signal, Fog, Auxiliary, Blinking,etc...)

    In short, YES. Weather aside, electric power is a function of both voltage AND current. The more current you draw from the alternator the harder it is for the engine to turn it, which means more gas. How much fuel it takes to produce a given amount of electric power via alternator would take...
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    Start Stop System

    Berlin was the BEST city I ever experienced in the WORLD! I loved it there. We were lucky for the experience.
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    Elio Lighting (head, Tail, Brake, Signal, Fog, Auxiliary, Blinking,etc...)

    Actually LED headlights COULD end up costing less because they have less caseing requirement, need much less reflector area cause they're alreadyso directional, and could be much smaller. If not for the fact thatb12 volts is a lousy voltage for LED's it would be a no-brainer. You havebto boost...
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    Start Stop System

    I think your dead on. I mentioned before that those systems only work in a stop-wait-drive traffic pattern and you nailed the real problem, which is traffic-creep. If traffic would just come to a complete STOP, then drive a stop/start system MIGHT help. But in the real world it doesn't stop...
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    Start Stop System

    In some places of the world with very high population density and very narrow streets in order to save space and not loose your mirror you have to fold the mirrors in when you park, and even occasionally while driving to get through a particularly narrow spot. The problem is virtually...
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    Doors? / Scissor Door / Lamborghini Door / Gullwing Door / Sliding Door

    I'm an EMT, and I can tell you if you take a side hit hard enough to disable the door from opening it'll probably break the window. If you need any other windows broken out the EMS crews will handle it, no problem. There are some rare scenarios with ANY vehicle in which you need out fast and...
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    Luggage Rack Vs Spare Tire Rack.

    Let's just add some reality to the world shall we? If you want 84mpg there won't be a spare tire. The Elio guys are naturally trying to make this vehicle appeal to as many as possible, but it just won't be for everyone. It is purpose-built to get high mpg, and that means sacrifices. If you...
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    Anyone Ask About Interior Noise?

    Don't expect a Mercedes for 7G's! As long as noise level is not worse than any other 84mpg vehicle I'm in! Just crank up the radio another notch and go spend some of that money you save enjoying life.
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    Start Stop System

    Sorry, I almost posted a long-winded response to this issue before realizing that it's getting far afield of the point of this thread, So I'll table my less-than-humble opinion of mandated pseudo-stupid features on cars. The question of a stop-start system still falls under the category of...
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    Legal: Motorcycle License And Helmet Laws

    "unreachable status"?? I don't understand, are you FOR reaching 'car' status? That would be a DISASTER!
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    Start Stop System

    "standard fare across the price spectrum" is why you can't get a car for less than $20,000 in the US. But it has power-folding mirrors!
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    Questions About Composite Body

    I don't pretend to know about the projected pricing structure for parts, but I would think that on a $7K vehicle the body panels can't cost THAT much. I would imagine that buying a panel off the shelf, already in your color, and bolting it on would be a pretty cheap, easy, and complete repair.
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    Legal: Motorcycle License And Helmet Laws

    For all who are worried about the 'burden' of having to get a cycle endorsement, I think with a little persuasion the rules will probably be changed in most if not all states, especially when the Elio becomes a fact of the road. The license and helmet laws will probably be changed. The...
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    Please Remember That The Elio Is An Exercise In Simplicity.

    You may well be right Craig, and I hope you are. The US market is only a small percentage of the demand that exists for low-cost transportation. Most people in the world are not as "rich" as the average American, and $4 per gallon gas is a lot more expensive to someone who makes $20 per day...
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    Please Remember That The Elio Is An Exercise In Simplicity.

    Completely agreed! Low price transportation DEFINES the target consumer for Elio. I'll customize in my own garage thanks. Anyone who is in a hurry to sacrifice low price for more options, or the high mpg for more power, might as well just go buy a car off the lot today! They make LOTS of...
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    Seriously? You Have To Provide Your Own Water Bottle For The Windshield Washer?

    the thing is supposed to get 84 mpg and cost under 7 grand and somehow screwing a cap onto a store bottle instead of pouring the bottle into a reservoir is supposed to be a problem??? I actually think its a cool idea, (and one more thing to customize!).
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    Elio Kit, Would You Still Buy?

    I would LOVE to build my own! But the drivetrain is the heart of the concept. A kit at any price would have to include all the parts to make it a car, er...motorcycle...ah..autocycle....whatever. It has to include the engine that gives it the 84mpg efficiency or it's pointless. What would we...
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    Wheels & Tires

    What if the Elio DID lean like a motorcycle? Tires might not be as durable, but sounds like a blast to drive!
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