Co2 Turned Directly Into Ethanol

[BilgeRat]

Very interesting stuff here; this could have huge impacts.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/18...rbon-dioxide-into-ethanol/?sr_source=Facebook

 

[Marshall]

Very interesting stuff here; this could have huge impacts.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/18...rbon-dioxide-into-ethanol/?sr_source=Facebook

There is always a laugh or two when a reporter writes an article about a subject in which they are ignorant. Basic chemistry requires a chemical balance and a catalyst by definition remains unchanged even as it promotes the chemical reaction.

Ethanol is CH3CH2OH (Structural formula) or C2H6O. Carbon Dioxide is CO2. So a direct chemical reaction would give you C2O4. Six Hydrogen have replaced three Oxygen so you need at least water (3xH20) for the chemical reaction to work and you have Oxygen as a byproduct so NOT a direct reaction or change, even with the catalyst.

2(CO2) + 3(H2O) = CH3CH2OH + 3(O2)

It's still a great find if it pans out, but the report is flawed.

 

[electroken]

Ethanol + oxygen? What else could we want?

Just add a solar panel and you get a CO2 scrubber by day, party time at night.

 

[Uncle Charlie]

Why would anyone want to convert CO2 to a marginal fuel? CO2 is plant food and an important part of the life cycle on this planet.

 

[Ty]

Why would anyone want to convert CO2 to a marginal fuel? CO2 is plant food and an important part of the life cycle on this planet.

It is. But, just like any food, too much of it is deadly. CO2 apparently isn't good to have in abundance in the atmosphere but ethanol isn't as bad... maybe.

 

[McBrew]

Why would anyone want to convert CO2 to a marginal fuel? CO2 is plant food and an important part of the life cycle on this planet.

Humans need water to live, but we can't live too long when submerged in it.


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[BilgeRat]

There is always a laugh or two when a reporter writes an article about a subject in which they are ignorant. Basic chemistry requires a chemical balance and a catalyst by definition remains unchanged even as it promotes the chemical reaction.

Ethanol is CH3CH2OH (Structural formula) or C2H6O. Carbon Dioxide is CO2. So a direct chemical reaction would give you C2O4. Six Hydrogen have replaced three Oxygen so you need at least water (3xH20) for the chemical reaction to work and you have Oxygen as a byproduct so NOT a direct reaction or change, even with the catalyst.

2(CO2) + 3(H2O) = CH3CH2OH + 3(O2)

It's still a great find if it pans out, but the report is flawed.

Marshall,
Did you happen to watch the video of the Oak Ridge researchers duscussing it? Was their information better than the written reporting? And thanks for the chemistry education...

 

[Marshall]

Marshall,
Did you happen to watch the video of the Oak Ridge researchers duscussing it? Was their information better than the written reporting? And thanks for the chemistry education...

I'm afraid not. I just clicked the link of the report. I avoid researchers discussions unless the assumptions they are making are already known. It's like needing to know the shorthand system they are using. That's why research papers must be fleshed out before presentation.

But if you have a link, i'd watch it anyway.

 

[Jambe]

Here are a couple of links for you, Marshall.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/10/19/scientists-turn-co2-into-ethanol/

 

[Jambe]

Why would anyone want to convert CO2 to a marginal fuel? CO2 is plant food and an important part of the life cycle on this planet.

What do you get when you burn ethanol? Wouldn't be CO2 would it?