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Turbo-charging .9 Liter Elio Engine

skygazer6033

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Another case of using the wrong word. Both the belt and the chain are reliable. Durability is what you're really looking at. That is, the chain is more durable. I'm sure the chain would last 2 or 3 times as long as a belt. The only reason I can think of to use a belt is there is very slightly less friction loss so it's slightly more efficient. Chains need plastic slipper guides to keep them from flapping around and making noise. You give up a little efficiency to help with engine noise.
 

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I did think it was odd that they were optimizing reliability with a belt. I always figured a chain would be more reliable...
Think about the drive belt on bike's.
Chains do stretch; belts don't (they break if it a cheap belt) but if it's a heavy duty steel reinforced belt, it might be better than a chain.
Belts have come a long way from when they first came out. They use belts on superchargers on Top Fuel cars (8,000 to 12,000 hp.
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Whew I thought so too. Had to come her to double check Hope it is still a Chain, I'm All in for reliability. :-)
Where is Palmer? It doesn't bell a ring with me. :confused2:
 

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The ford Fiesta 1L uses a belt in an oil bath. Ford claims "life time" guarantee. IIRR
My Fiesta is the 1L turbo, and I was told this also when I talked to the service people. They said it is expected to last as a chain would but has less resistance which is why it was chosen over a chain.
 

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How about some valuations of the vehicle?.
I wish they had made it in a coupe model.
In 2013 they did make a 3 door Fiesta

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There was one problem with it.

You couldn't buy it in the US
 

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They do sell the ST Fiesta here but it is a 1.6l turbo. I have a 1l 3cly sedan, it makes 125hp and 140lb-ft of torque. In Europe they have tuned the 1l engine to put out 140hp. I also read they now have a version that can output 160hp. I have been averaging 35mpg around town and 46 hwy.
 

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Welcome to the forum, Fredio, from a Hazzard County neighbor! :D (Don't forget to vote! :usa2:)

Current opinion is it's likely a misstatement by a marketing-type at Elio. The engine will have a timing chain.

That said, you may have been asleep since the ninety's. ;) Yes, timing belts were not as reliable as claimed when they were first widely used (60k actual vs 100k claimed), but experience and technology have greatly improved. Now they really are good for well over 100k miles just like chains. And while not trivial, they sure are easier to replace than chains. Cheaper too. Replace them when the owner's manual says to (or sooner) and they will never be the failure point.

Thank you for the warm welcome, neighbor! Is Hazzard County on the other side of the river from Ceciltucky?

I emailed Elio Motors about this. They replied the following business day with the below. Thankfully it is a case of suspicions confirmed!

"Hello Frederick,
Yes, that is a mistake! The Elio will be using a timing chain instead of a belt.

Thanks,
Elio Team"

PS for the Moderators: I understand combining threads about the same topic, but why combine two new timing belt or chain threads with an existing turbocharging thread, which has since been hijacked by Ford Fiesta posts? It makes it difficult to find your own post and is otherwise confusing.
 

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PS for the Moderators: I understand combining threads about the same topic, but why combine two new timing belt or chain threads with an existing turbocharging thread, which has since been hijacked by Ford Fiesta posts? It makes it difficult to find your own post and is otherwise confusing.
Welcome to typical thread drift; at one point in the beginning of this thread the threads that were merged were talking about the same thing; why have two or three threads talking about the same topic when they all over lap? That's why they were merged.
As for the Ford Fiesta comment; that's where the thread drift snuck in. The fiesta also has a small motor with a turbo and some very similar attributes included was the timing belt / chain with an oil bath, and the question why the Elio has a 6qt pan. All of these topics do cover the same area, but on their own, they don't have the staying power of a good discussion
 
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