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Why Buy Elio (don't Worry, I'm All In)
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Isn't a gas tax based on actual miles driven in your vehicle (by classification) on the roadways more equitable than a tax per gallon based on mpg regardless of where you drive in the city or in the country. Or am I missing something?
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It's politics so you KNOW we're missing a lot of behind the scenes shenanigans.
The concept of a gas tax based on miles driven sounds fair and equitable, but how it's executed could be something else (shenanigans) that somehow benefits the 1%. The advantage is that Elio Owners and Tesla Owners would both pay gas taxes to help maintain our infrastructure.
Subsidies and penalties skew markets, so we really don't know how sustainable alternative vehicles are.
If Tesla doesn't use gas, then they wouldn't pay a GAS tax at all. But if they are contemplating a mileage tax to replace a gas tax, then that would be fairer than the current tax setup.
Yes, that was my point too......we agree.
Ty
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Exactly. Plus, the tax should include some function including weight of vehicle. Though it pains me to say this, my 9,000 lbs truck is probably harder on the road than my daughter's prius. So, 10,000 miles on the road in my truck would do more damage than the same miles in her prius. I'm thinking something along these lines:
1. Vehicles would have to have mileage checks done to be registered.
2. Each year, the mileage would have to be verified prior to registering again.
3. Tax paid would be in the form of a straight $.10 per gallon which is less than the current $.189 per gallon we all pay in federal gas tax. Plus, there would be a tax based on weight of vehicles and number of miles driven. It would look something like this:
[(# miles driven/1,000) X (weight / 6000)] X (tax rate factor)
### I'll use 6 as the tax factor and 6,000 lbs as the weight factor. A 6,000 lb car would have a weight factor of 1.0 ###
Federal gas tax is 18.4¢ per gallon right now. Drop that to 10.0¢ per gallon.
For this example, assume you currently drive 10,000 miles a year.
Under current rules:
Case A: 10,000 lb truck that gets 15 mpg. Tax burden is $122.67
Case B: 2,765 lb prius that gets 40 mpg. Tax burden is $47.25
Case C: 4,647 lbTesla that uses no gas. Tax burden is $0.
Total tax collected is $169.92
The tesla uses the road but does not pay for the upkeep which makes it unfair to all other tax payers.
The new system:
Case A: 10,000 lb truck that gets 15 mpg. Tax burden is $66.67+$100=$166.67. (Tax burden is tax per gallon + weight-miles tax)
Case B: 2,765 lb prius that gets 40 mpg. Tax burden is $25+$27.65=$52.64
Case C: 4,647 lb Tesla that uses no gas. Tax burden is $0+46.47=$46.47
Total tax collected = $265.78
This would be an incentive to buy lighter, less damaging, higher mileage vehicles while those car owners would still contribute to road maintenance.
Case D: 1,300 lb Elio at 84 mpg: Tax burden is $11.90+$12.99=$24.89
Ty
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Whew... sorry about that. I like numbers.
The only thing that appeals to me about sustainable transportation options is that they are sustainable by this definition: Any form of transport that does not use or rely on dwindling natural resources. Instead it relies on renewable or regenerated energy rather than fossil fuel that have a finite life. I think future generations will be grateful to those that adopt the philosophy and supported the technology to make it happen. I think we need ICE, hybrid, and PEV options. Drive what you like, Like what you drive.
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