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Borrow $240 Mil, Or Borrow Alot Less And Start Out Slow?

RUCRAYZE

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Considering we're down to about 12 active members and-
No EM news
No funding news
Lower than expected sign-ups
One (uno) sit alone engine
no new frame to put it in
Dysfunctional government (red and blue)
Dash resolved, gas filler location, motorcycle v car, insurance, towing etc
of course we're now down to apologizing for mis-statements on a thread, once again has deteriorated,
The new poor souls , trying to follow threads no longer exist. About 3-4 posts into any topic rapidly moves off topic
(but I love it!!!)
I'm here before checking my mail
Notice the fewer alerts/topics- when in the past, took a few days off, a gazillion posts now 2-3!
 

CompTrex

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Considering we're down to about 12 active members and-
No EM news
No funding news
Lower than expected sign-ups
One (uno) sit alone engine
no new frame to put it in
Dysfunctional government (red and blue)
Dash resolved, gas filler location, motorcycle v car, insurance, towing etc
of course we're now down to apologizing for mis-statements on a thread, once again has deteriorated,
The new poor souls , trying to follow threads no longer exist. About 3-4 posts into any topic rapidly moves off topic
(but I love it!!!)
I'm here before checking my mail
Notice the fewer alerts/topics- when in the past, took a few days off, a gazillion posts now 2-3!
May as well be on Facebook for all the new stuff we learn. But those guys KNOW me over there so I need to behave myself. Here I can be as big a knucklehead as I want!
 

Spyche Chaos

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I'm not seeing an actual feeling expressed. Are you saying you feel angry with Elio Motors because you value trust, and Elio Motors has not met their stated production targets?

Meet the target (or don't), have a delay here and there, but for Pete's sake, the constant PR spin has to improve vastly in quality, if they're going to keep throwing money in that hole. That day of the last delay, with the FB rep repeating Sep. 2015 and calling people liars, while Paul is announcing the delay in Shreveport?! Pathetic.

Crowing about all the million dollar talent you're hiring isn't a great idea either, if you're not also willing to talk about the results they're producing, or how their million-dollar job is progressing. I could go on, but I already probably bought myself enough trouble.
:oops:
 

JEBar

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May as well be on Facebook for all the new stuff we learn. But those guys KNOW me over there so I need to behave myself. Here I can be as big a knucklehead as I want!

the process is most certainly in a lull so it would make sense that a corresponding drop in news is to be expected .... since NY the tour has been making longer stops so not as many of our folks are able to go and report back .... within the next few weeks/months thing will either pick up an progress to production or they won't .... as has been noted many times, funding is the gorilla in the room
 

John Painter

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There have been multiple reports in the media indicating that this round of ATVM loans will be focused less on automakers and more on component manufacturers/suppliers (Alcoa just got 200 million + to increase high strength aluminum alloy production). I'd look for EM to stress their engine production capabilities in future discussions / applications for ATVM funding.
And before that, factions within the House were bringing out the pitchforks. This is a part of the decision making and vetting process, and is valuable. http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/final-doe-loan-guarantees-report.pdf
 

Spyche Chaos

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I like to think of the funding as the Bigfoot in the room. :rolleyes: There's 'anecdotal' claims it exists, but nobody's presented actual proof. :D
I always thought of funding as a pink elephant. Or am I mixing up euphemisms too? :)

Good imagery, though I would have gone with the whole counting-chickens-before-they're-hatched theme. I guess that makes me country.
 
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