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Gm Closing 5 Plants - 14,000 Jobs Gone.

RSchneider

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Back on the subject at hand. This was going to happen with GM. They are watching the Chinese and Tesla rewriting the book right now. I’d rather see bloodletting right now as opposed to what happened back in the bankruptcy. The future is electric and they need to go in that direction. Ford is getting hammered in the European market. They either have to change or fail. That’s why you see they will be hit hard quite soon. The change is coming and the new base of customers are driving it. The older ones will still die off and the ones left have limited funding available. That market will steadily drop off over the next 20 years.
 

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Back on the subject at hand. This was going to happen with GM. They are watching the Chinese and Tesla rewriting the book right now. I’d rather see bloodletting right now as opposed to what happened back in the bankruptcy. The future is electric and they need to go in that direction. Ford is getting hammered in the European market. They either have to change or fail. That’s why you see they will be hit hard quite soon. The change is coming and the new base of customers are driving it. The older ones will still die off and the ones left have limited funding available. That market will steadily drop off over the next 20 years.
“Change is coming”, sounds like a good argument for an electric Elio for the vast majority of the 65,000 Elio reservationists and future customers that would use their Elio as a single occupant commuter “&” vehicle as a supplement to their family vehicle. High MPGe (70-130 mile minimum range options) for local daily commuter use is likely more important to most owners than 500+ miles on a tank of gas. If only EM had a track tested/validated chassis, suspension, and body in which to install the front wheel drive electric motor/motors and battery components at under $15K......similar to the Arcimoto and SOLO MSRP. I’d buy one pending a test drive.
 

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“Change is coming”, sounds like a good argument for an electric Elio for the vast majority of the 65,000 Elio reservationists and future customers that would use their Elio as a single occupant commuter “&” vehicle as a supplement to their family vehicle. High MPGe (70-130 mile minimum range options) for local daily commuter use is likely more important to most owners than 500+ miles on a tank of gas. If only EM had a track tested/validated chassis, suspension, and body in which to install the front wheel drive electric motor/motors and battery components at under $15K......similar to the Arcimoto and SOLO MSRP. I’d buy one pending a test drive.

Maybe something like this? Seems simple enough since the Elio is a front wheel drive.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/05/aston-martin-ev-conversions-electric-1970-db6-volante/
 

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Jumping in at the end but I still think GM hasn't learned. I see SUVs on the road but I don't think that consumers suddenly hate cars. They have just grown tired of GM trying to tell us what we want instead of asking. I also think GM closing plants in the US is less about learning and thinning the herd and more about trying to get cheap labor in other countries. I'm usually not in favor of tariffs but GM and Tesla need giant tariffs to encourage them to come back home. I don't want to get into talks about unions and such. All that can be worked out and GM execs who make millions to lose money garner no sympathy from me. Let them all take paycuts just start at the top.
 
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