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Come back in a few years then, this is gonna take a while. :D

Foul! Cheap shot! Enjoy Homestead. I'll get there one of these years.

I actually thought it was a respectable crowd for a rained out race. Many don't/can't plan an extra day and have to head home. NFL Sunday probably kept the walk up crowd down, even with Carolina off yesterday.

Any car is an "&" for me. I've had at least 1 truck, often 2, for as long as I can remember. Thanks to 4 door trucks, the only thing that keeps me a car owner is fuel cost. I have a hitch on my commuter car, never been used by me. The original owner pulled a small boat. The E could be "the"...

Sorry I wasn't clear. I was referring to the Aaron's part of the deal only. I as a Chevy guy hate to see Martin and the FR team go, but I get the whys behind the move.

Nothing on that on Jayski - kinda the clearinghouse of NASCAR rumors. http://www.jayski.com/news/pages/story/_/page/2016-NASCAR-Sprint-Cup-Team-Driver-Chart I thought I'd heard somewhere that Aaron's was backing away from the sport. I'm not even sure where I heard that, though.

Not having the wheels on changes the appearance a lot. I'm betting the P4 looks pretty similar. Other random thoughts from the last 2 pages: Honestly, most cars you can't see where the bumper is exactly. I was thinking pic 1 was looking up thru the grate of a pit cover.

Sorry Bert, I was at work and didn't notice that feeling of my leg getting stretched.

Except thats obviously NOT an Elio he's driving. Hood says Vette to me, 2 wipers, no hood pins, published 6/2013 - before the P4 existed as far as I know.

Just read via the Nascar mobile app (I can't link from there for squat for some reason) - Xalta to switch from the 24 to the 88 car next year, the deal runs through 2018. Good news for Jr., makes me think that NAPA will probably follow Chase Elliott back to Cup.

I read that the other evening. Pretty cool. I found it on Flipboard, an app that came with my phone that gathers magazine articles based on what you want to read. It's one of the few "packaged" apps I really use, and would even recommend to others. Heres another to read, it's obvious the writer...

The difference is well understood. What I was trying to get across is that if the P4 performed that well without electronic aids, those of us buying for more fun than savings might be in for a nice treat.

If that's the case, and the IIHS story is correct, the E must be a well mannered (and fun to drive) machine indeed! Either that, or there is another top secret test E out there with all the electronic aid doodads...

On item 5, I've never studied the P4 as close as many of you have. Apparently it has the ABS/traction-stability control on it? Has it always had it, or was it upgraded before the ins meetings? I ask because as far as I know, it's never been run publicly at speed, just city street speeds.

Thems fightin words now! Why do they paint them things green? Camouflage for when they're broke down out in the field. :D

Appeals panel upheld the 15 car's penalties, sounded like it was a slam dunk case. They have a final appeal to the comissioner if they choose, but VERY rarely does that change any decisions.

Im good with the RCR stuff, heck, I wear a 3 hat every Sunday. Trouble is, Truex and the FR guys generally outrun all 3 of the RCR cars every week. I agree that Tony is going another year to avoid being the 2nd best driver retiring this year. If JG hadn't announced, I think Tony would have...

KC never had a chance, the GB defense made sure of that. They are the unsung heroes with Rodgers at QB. KC got garbage points in the 4th, but were never a factor. I hereby proclaim another title run to be underway in Titletown, USA.

Yes it is. Aaron is da man, ain't he?

Tony has actually shown some speed again lately, but it has been tough sledding the last 2 years and it has taken a huge visible toll on him. I hope he starts doing his "Tony Stewart Live" show on Sirius again once he hangs up the helmet, that was (is but only twice a year now) the best...