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    "powers To Be" In The Auto Industry Are Keeping 10k Priced Products From Coming To Market

    I think it's much easier to buy a car today than years ago. Now you can research all of the info and figure out what the price is. Back in the day, you had the newspaper and then multiple trips to various dealers. I hated that. When I bought my TDI back in 1999, barely any dealers had them, thus...
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    Diy Hands On Projects

    That's cool. It's a great example of the power of today's CAD programs, automated machining and prototyping. I bet that 3D printed a few versions of it before firing up the laser cutters and CNC machines.
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    How This Radical Car Missed Its Chance To Change The World - Maybe!

    At least the right side of the Elio should do well since there's no door. In the end, when the IIHS tests the Elio, that will tell the tale. We know that they will test the Elio when it comes out. I do know that the IIHS only tests production models not prototypes. This is why they buy cars off...
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    Class Action Elio Lawsuit Has Over 800 Signatures...

    It's good he got his money back. 7 months and 120 emails is excessive for a measly $250 though.
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    "powers To Be" In The Auto Industry Are Keeping 10k Priced Products From Coming To Market

    If this was true then this is what would have happened. 1. The car companies would have told Stu Lichter to not deal with Elio Motors, thus no car plant and equipment 2. The car companies would have told the blue chip suppliers not to deal with Elio Motors 3. The car companies would have told...
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    Tesla Cyber Truck Unveil / Test Ride

    Same for the Jeep crowd. I see plenty of Jeeps all tricked out but look pristine. Might as well throw in the Corvette crowd. The car is to take on the world for sportscar racing yet most that own them, look cleaner than when they left the factory. So, there's the idea of what to use a car for...
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    Tesla Cyber Truck Unveil / Test Ride

    They speak the truth. Only for right now. It sounds like back in the late 80's when you wanted to tow a trailer with a pickup, the only choice was a Ford 460 or a Chevy 454 (nobody used a Dodge). Diesels were junk. Even into the early 90's, if you had a diesel pickup you were an idiot because of...
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    Tesla Cyber Truck Unveil / Test Ride

    Tesla has been setting the standard for crash safety. I have a feeling that with their previous successes, they know a thing or two about how to make it safe. Plus, for crash safety, you can't make a car or truck built like a brick. You have to make it crush because when they put them crash test...
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    Tesla Cyber Truck Unveil / Test Ride

    A neighbor years ago worked at a GM dealer and got a Cutlass diesel for free (the customer had enough as the engine went south once again). It was in great condition (because it spent most of the time in the shop). This guy brought it home and pulled the engine out and took it apart. What...
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    Tesla Cyber Truck Unveil / Test Ride

    Coincidentally, this was announced yesterday: https://ww.electrek.co/2019/11/26/lincoln-will-build-an-electric-suv-based-on-rivians-chassis/ Knowing how the traditional car companies work, the F150 Electric will be a rebodied Rivian and whatever plans they had for it just got pushed into a...
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Connie was never on the BoD. She was just the CFO which is part of the management team. Management team: https://ir.eliomotors.com/management-team Board of Directors: https://ir.eliomotors.com/board-of-directors
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    Tesla Cyber Truck Unveil / Test Ride

    I want this truck instead:
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    Tesla Cyber Truck Unveil / Test Ride

    I agree. I want it to stay the same because I’ll be driving around Airwolf. Then everyone will think I’m Jan Michael Vincent in his hay day. Maybe I can put an optional SpaceX rocket in the back and be like Hooper and jump over a river where the bridge used to be.
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    If you look at what they spent vs what they raised. The numbers can't support that business plan. They raised about $115M and spent $62M on the car and need an additional $85M (probably now about $60M with the off the shelf engine). The rest was to make payments on the equipment (which is about...
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    Tesla Cyber Truck Unveil / Test Ride

    Looks like 146K deposits in 48 hours. https://insideevs.com/news/384086/elon-musk-146000-cybertruck-orders/
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    Tesla Cyber Truck Unveil / Test Ride

    Looks like Tesla has some serious competition. I present the Lordstown Endurance! https://insideevs.com/news/383751/lordstown-preorders-endurance-ev-pickup/
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    Tesla Cyber Truck Unveil / Test Ride

    I wonder if Paul Elio was involved in this then.
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    Tesla Cyber Truck Unveil / Test Ride

    I love it. Something completely different. Leave it to Elon to do something like that.
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    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    They could also include: Carbon Motors Bright Automotive Next Autoworks V-Vehicle All I have listed never got an ATVM loan and thus went out of business. They all had lots of interest and rock solid business plans yet never got an ATVM loan. V-Vehicle even had Apple, Google, a Texas billionaire...
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    Class Action Elio Lawsuit Has Over 800 Signatures...

    Then there's going after the CEO. This can be done but it really hard. This is why. There's nothing illegal to paying ESG Engineering to do work on the car. ESG did produce 4 working prototypes and 2 working E series. The design changed over time, thus ESG can prove they were doing something...
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