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    Momentum V134

    EV's are much simpler and even in the electronics department. Just Elio engine comprises of many more parts than a complete driveline on an EV. The Engine computer has to drive 3 coils, 3 injectors, EGR, a throttle motor, the servo for the cam, fuel pump and cooling fan. It also needs info from...
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    What Is Elio Stock Trading For Today?

    I noticed this morning because I haven't checked the stock in a few days. Over on the OTC site, it went from the color green to yellow. Then I noticed that it did go from OTCQX to OTCB. Under the filings, I did that Elio got certified for OTCB...
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    Something’s Gotta Give.....

    I'd guess that Roush did suspension work for Elio. That's one of their specialties. Also, they have a huge dyno facility that is used for long term and emissions testing. I'd suspect those two things.
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    What Is Elio Stock Trading For Today?

    Something must be happening with the NASDAQ listing because Elio moved to OTCQB. This is probably a preliminary step to the NASDAQ listing come Spring 2018.
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    The Elio's 4 Musts.

    The only reason this conversation is happening is because EV's are slowly becoming a threat to ICE. Back when Elio motors opened their doors for business in 2009, the EV market was a joke. Here we are, ready to celebrate Elio Motors 9th year in business and EV's have changed during that period...
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    Momentum V134

    The Elio has a timing belt now.
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    Arcimoto

    Just search "Tesla Battery life".
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    Yes It Is Taking Some Time. What Changes Would You Consider?

    Raising the rear would help aero wise. Right now, the rear creates lift and that creates drag. Raise the rear to the point where the drag and lift is reduced. Then add a lip to the rear to help that high speed stability. It's a win -win because it's way more stable and it creates at least double...
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    The Elio's 4 Musts.

    Remember, the Elio only has to deal with motorcycle emissions. Thus no compliance for the required 150K miles and no emissions inspection over the life of the product. Add into that, it can pollute more NOX than a TDI VW (which is what VW got nailed for). So, it just comes down to what you want...
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    What's Your Theory?

    There is something else to remember. The longer Elio goes without actually spending money on things like outfitting the plant and buying products from their suppliers, the more difficult it will be for them to hit cost and timeline numbers. I'll give you an example. Elio is using Steel Strips...
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    Yes It Is Taking Some Time. What Changes Would You Consider?

    Porsche has been installing a roof escape hatch on their GT3 Cup and GT3RSR's since the 991 came out. This is because those cars have fixed side windows (like many European racecars) and getting out even the passenger side is almost impossible. So, they added a escape hatch right over the...
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    What's Your Theory?

    Even Warren Buffet couldn't accomplish that with all of his money over that time period. Elio does not have the design done by a long shot. They have told us that through the numbers. When you have spent $62M so far and need an additional $85M, that's a total budget of $147M. Elio is literally...
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    Something’s Gotta Give.....

    It wasn't $141M on the car. It was actually: "$62.3 million has been invested in vehicle engineering and development, of which $26.3 million was in the form of shares of common stock granted and the assumption of liabilities of Elio Engineering, Inc. dba ESG Engineering." Elio engineering got...
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    What's Your Theory?

    It's an add on for the OEM dash. The Skyz package is already $2K along with the heads up at $479 and park pilot for $312. Even today, most manufacturers build one harness and on infotainment unit. You want those options it comes down either unlocking a unit, adding a dongle or installing a...
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    What Is Elio Stock Trading For Today?

    OTC is not the best judge of a company. I suspect someone was propping it up and finally gave up. Lilly has the best plan to buy it at $2 and wait until Spring for it to go on NASDAQ. You could buy a fleet of Elio's then.
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    What's Your Theory?

    That's why they need a digital dash. That way they can integrate all of the 2019 technology in it. Then charge you $2K for a guy to plug in it and unlock that feature or plug in a dongle. That's plenty of money right there.
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    Something’s Gotta Give.....

    One of the issues today is many can make products look production ready because of things like 3D printing and advanced prototyping. Just look at the Sondors. It looks like they could start cranking them out tomorrow but that's not the case. There's lots of work to be done to make it...
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    What's Your Theory?

    Over the weekend I did read more of the SEC filing and this was something I found interesting: "Currently, we estimate that we need to raise an estimated $376.6 million from new investment (of a total budget of $531.2 million) to reach cashflow positive. This $376.6 million of new investment...
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    Yes It Is Taking Some Time. What Changes Would You Consider?

    How about an extra set of fog lights included in the headlight assembly. I've seen other cars that have this where it's an option that is easy to retrofit. As for LED lights, it the design of the reflector that's important. Some manufacturers just put in bulbs and not change the reflector, which...
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    Something’s Gotta Give.....

    Maybe they should get the guy who started Pebble Watch to do kickstarter for Elio. Pebble has 3 of the top 5 kickstarter campaigns ever. They even raised like $20M in a day and all of this for the second generation of the watch, not the initial one that raised $10M. Only problem was that the...
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