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  1. J

    Why Gauges Or Numbers At All?

    Is the Lady Ga Ga button the same as the "It's now time for me to snap and go postal" button, or is that the button that provides a 'bio bag' for that first moment you hear her music and the nausea sets in.
  2. J

    Collectors Addition?

    Would a collector's addition be an Abacus?
  3. J

    Will Your Elio Retain Its Resale Value?

    This is complete nonsense. Service life is not size dependent, it is dependent on the quality of construction, vehicle weight, driving habits, road condition, etc.
  4. J

    Will Your Elio Retain Its Resale Value?

    Recycled plastic, steel and aluminum don't have much scrap value unless you separate them first. :p
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    Two Rear Tire Instead Of One

    You have to look at the design intent, component and overall costing to compare T-Rex to Elio. At $40-60k vs $6800, not a good comparison. I'll be happy with it as a commuter, and I do think the Elio will be relatively fun to drive. I think the Elio will ride better than a Metro due to the...
  6. J

    Will Your Elio Retain Its Resale Value?

    That's what I figured. Hopefully they'll at least treat the chassis for corrosion/rust resistance. E-coating the chassis would be awesome, but would add significantly to the processing cost.
  7. J

    Will Your Elio Retain Its Resale Value?

    Excellent info, thanks!
  8. J

    Will Your Elio Retain Its Resale Value?

    Is the chassis comprised of steel tubing, or aluminum? Steel is cheaper, but aluminum will save weight, and won't rust.
  9. J

    Two Rear Tire Instead Of One

    Like using a small squeegee in air cooled VW's. The defrosters sucked, unless you had a gas heater that hadn't yet failed and caught on fire.
  10. J

    Two Rear Tire Instead Of One

    Are you one of the few who have driven or ridden in an Elio? I'm guessing the Elio will ride like an Escort (purely speculation). I haven't heard or read anything about the ride quality of the prototypes. It'll have the simplest and cheapest suspension components available. It is what it...
  11. J

    Two Rear Tire Instead Of One

    If this is what you meant to say, a 3rd grader could have written it more clearly than your first post. I do agree that brand and reputation affect sales. I've been a Ford guy since the early 80s, but Toyotas I've owned had a much better fit, finish, and feel, and I was willing to pay a...
  12. J

    Will Your Elio Retain Its Resale Value?

    Why would anyone pay new retail for a vehicle with 250k miles on it? You never know, Barnum was pretty accurate. You'd just have to find a sucker that has to have it right this instant instead of waiting for the next day Elio delivery.
  13. J

    Will Your Elio Retain Its Resale Value?

    If production numbers reach 250k units per year as they hope, I bet the value after 5yrs would be $1500-2000 in good condition. Come on ... let's be realistic ... these will likely be sub-$8k vehicles delivered new. They will mainly be commuters, racking up shloads of miles. However, if they...
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    Two Rear Tire Instead Of One

    OP quoted: "the name on car caused by executive greed," I have no problem understanding higher prices on vehicles driven by executive greed. Again ... how is the name of the car determined by executive greed? Simple question. I didn't mention anything about pricing factors in my post...
  15. J

    Two Rear Tire Instead Of One

    What? How does executive greed determine the name of the car????
  16. J

    Two Rear Tire Instead Of One

    What would be the point?? What would be the advantage?? The tires would be an inch or two apart. I seriously doubt you'd be willing to pay the extra coin for a second rear wheel. As a minimum, the entire rear chassis section and suspension would have to be redesigned, but most likely the...
  17. J

    Pre Orders Just Under 136,000 Units

    I watched it, and LMAO!
  18. J

    Pre Orders Just Under 136,000 Units

    Debbie Downer??? LOL
  19. J

    Manual Or Power Steering?

    Those are some sharp rides! I agree there is probably no need for it, although a small assist means they can use a smaller diameter steering wheel. My '64 Falcon 'vert has manual steering and factory V8, and steering has never been an issue. Weight is listed at 2800lbs.
  20. J

    Why Not Buy A Geo Metro Or 1st Gen Insight?

    This guy is a genius. He just described entropy. :rolleyes:
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