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RSchneider

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Elio did spend $850K with lobbyists for things like the Autocycle Act and Ultra Efficient Vehicles. All is not lost.
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000050483&year=2009

The autocycle act is dead. It would need to be re-introduced for it to become "live" again. Unfortunately it comes down to money. Why would anybody sponsor a bill for a vehicle that nobody even makes? There are no manufacturing jobs. No supplier jobs. No dealer jobs. Their time is better spent figuring out the budget, immigration, healthcare, etc..
 

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The autocycle act is dead. It would need to be re-introduced for it to become "live" again. Unfortunately it comes down to money. Why would anybody sponsor a bill for a vehicle that nobody even makes? There are no manufacturing jobs. No supplier jobs. No dealer jobs. Their time is better spent figuring out the budget, immigration, healthcare, etc..
Maybe if the bill was passed then others would start building and investing in autocycles.
 

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Now we need someone to pay a lobbyist to get this done as it’ll never happen without it. So could it be reworded to include Arcimoto, Solo, Vanderhall, Polaris and Sondors. Then they could pay for it since they owe Elio anyway.

What in the legislation made ‘autocycle’ apply to only Elio? If true, shrewd, but maybe shortsighted.
 

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Not necessarily only Elio, but it does knock out a lot of the competition with steering wheel, front wheel drive, and fully enclosed:

From https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2381/all-info

"The bill defines "autocycle" as a motorcycle with three wheels in contact with the ground, front-wheel drive, a fully enclosed occupant compartment, and a steering wheel and which is subject to applicable federal motor vehicle safety standards"

Arcimoto - No steering wheel
Solo - RWD
Vanderhall - Not fully enclosed
Polaris - Not fully enclosed, RWD
Sondors - originally RWD, but now supposedly FWD so would qualify
 
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What in the legislation made ‘autocycle’ apply to only Elio? If true, shrewd, but maybe shortsighted.
It was shrewd when Elio was the powerhouse in three wheelers. Times have changed and Elio could rewrite it where all of the three wheelers are included. Elio helped out those companies with the state requirements and with the Elio government affairs guy helping out FUV and the helmet thing in Michigan, this is a possibility. We need more 3 wheelers and all need to combine their energies to forward this whole industry.

For people having reservations with FUV, Solo and Sondors, call them to get this going.
 
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