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Hey, did someone here confirm that the "stamped steel body" was a misquote? I'm pretty sure the reporter should have said "stamped frame" or something of the like. Another question. SMC panels... They are basically reinforced plastic (to be simple) like the Fiero or Saturn had, right? I keep hearing people throw around "fiberglass" and I don't think that is used much nor would it be very light.
Here's your answer Ty:

The Elio Team posted: "Happy Friday Elio’ers! We hope that you emerged from your holiday weekend unscathed, unburned, and relaxed. While we have another 7 weeks until the next “official” 3-day weekend, hopefully you have a summer vacation planned. Wherever you plan on travellin"


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More E1a coverage!
by The Elio Team

Happy Friday Elio’ers! We hope that you emerged from your holiday weekend unscathed, unburned, and relaxed. While we have another 7 weeks until the next “official” 3-day weekend, hopefully you have a summer vacation planned. Wherever you plan on travelling this summer, there’s a chance that you’ll have the same plans as our Tour Team! If you want to stay in the loop and hopefully cross paths with the tour this summer, make sure to periodically check on this link. A summer vacation and a chance to spend some time with the tour team and the Elio- what could be better!

If, over your holiday weekend, you decided to not check your email or browse the web, you might have missed the tremendous progress we made last week. In front of more than 250 industry leaders, supplier partners, and media members, we unveiled our first completed E-Series vehicle: the E1a.

Before the E1a was unveiled, Paul Elio addressed the illustrious crowd. If you missed Paul’s remarks, click here. Not only were distinguished politicians and industry leaders in attendance, but the media presence was equally as impressive. For just a taste of the great coverage, click here and here.

The introduction of the E1a marks a crucial step forward, and many took notice. The E1a is only the beginning: our plan is to produce 23 E-Series vehicles to calibrate important systems that will ultimately improve the vehicle.

[Broken External Image]

The feedback we received on both the event and the vehicle itself was tremendous. It also generated some questions about the photos that came through email. As always, we strive to keep our fans informed throughout the process and we’d like to provide some clarity on these topics.

The E-Series vehicles are engineering vehicles and this step in the process allows us to learn more about the vehicle itself, the manufacture of the vehicle and make improvements based on what we learn. As the E-Series vehicles are manufactured and tested, we are able to improve various parts and/or systems for the final product. These improvements and changes will only happen as long they move forward our four main tenets: great gas mileage, ultra-affordable base price, safe, and made in America.

There are two topics that generated emails about the E1a: the body and the frame. The questions about the body were all regarding the “100% made of steel body.” Sheet molded composite is still the design direction but we are looking at other materials, i.e. steel and other automotive skin materials that could help us make the vehicle better, safer, more reliable and improve upon our four tenets. All changes and potential improvements must fit within our four tenets and our existing timeline to be considered.

If you saw the picture of the E1a, you probably noticed the changes to the frame. The photos showed more of a unibody construction than a reinforced steel roll cage. This is a change that we are testing to see if we can improve upon our already strong safety expectations for the Elio. Again, no decision has been finalized. This time has been allotted to look at potential changes that will help us build the best possible vehicle. Oh, and the production vehicle will be dipped for rust and corrosion- no worries!

As we continue to make progress with the E-Series vehicles, we will keep you, our fans, in the loop. Over the next couple of weeks, we will share information with you on any changes as they become etched in stone. Ultimately, the E-Series process is put in place to learn more about the manufacturing and engineering of the production Elio and allows us to build the best possible vehicle.


Elio Preview Tour:

July 7-9: Iola Car Show - Iola, WI - Iola Car Show Tower 130 Jenson Drive Iola, WI 54945 - Times: Thurs - Sat 9am-6pm - http://www.iolaoldcarshow.com


Thanks for coming along on the journey and thank you for your support


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Here's your answer Ty:

The Elio Team posted: "Happy Friday Elio’ers! We hope that you emerged from your holiday weekend unscathed, unburned, and relaxed. While we have another 7 weeks until the next “official” 3-day weekend, hopefully you have a summer vacation planned. Wherever you plan on travellin"


New post on Elio Motors
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080cce3479e5cd31eed0006bd6192cb6?s=50&d=identicon&r=G.png

More E1a coverage!
by The Elio Team

Happy Friday Elio’ers! We hope that you emerged from your holiday weekend unscathed, unburned, and relaxed. While we have another 7 weeks until the next “official” 3-day weekend, hopefully you have a summer vacation planned. Wherever you plan on travelling this summer, there’s a chance that you’ll have the same plans as our Tour Team! If you want to stay in the loop and hopefully cross paths with the tour this summer, make sure to periodically check on this link. A summer vacation and a chance to spend some time with the tour team and the Elio- what could be better!

If, over your holiday weekend, you decided to not check your email or browse the web, you might have missed the tremendous progress we made last week. In front of more than 250 industry leaders, supplier partners, and media members, we unveiled our first completed E-Series vehicle: the E1a.

Before the E1a was unveiled, Paul Elio addressed the illustrious crowd. If you missed Paul’s remarks, click here. Not only were distinguished politicians and industry leaders in attendance, but the media presence was equally as impressive. For just a taste of the great coverage, click here and here.

The introduction of the E1a marks a crucial step forward, and many took notice. The E1a is only the beginning: our plan is to produce 23 E-Series vehicles to calibrate important systems that will ultimately improve the vehicle.

[Broken External Image]

The feedback we received on both the event and the vehicle itself was tremendous. It also generated some questions about the photos that came through email. As always, we strive to keep our fans informed throughout the process and we’d like to provide some clarity on these topics.

The E-Series vehicles are engineering vehicles and this step in the process allows us to learn more about the vehicle itself, the manufacture of the vehicle and make improvements based on what we learn. As the E-Series vehicles are manufactured and tested, we are able to improve various parts and/or systems for the final product. These improvements and changes will only happen as long they move forward our four main tenets: great gas mileage, ultra-affordable base price, safe, and made in America.

There are two topics that generated emails about the E1a: the body and the frame. The questions about the body were all regarding the “100% made of steel body.” Sheet molded composite is still the design direction but we are looking at other materials, i.e. steel and other automotive skin materials that could help us make the vehicle better, safer, more reliable and improve upon our four tenets. All changes and potential improvements must fit within our four tenets and our existing timeline to be considered.

If you saw the picture of the E1a, you probably noticed the changes to the frame. The photos showed more of a unibody construction than a reinforced steel roll cage. This is a change that we are testing to see if we can improve upon our already strong safety expectations for the Elio. Again, no decision has been finalized. This time has been allotted to look at potential changes that will help us build the best possible vehicle. Oh, and the production vehicle will be dipped for rust and corrosion- no worries!

As we continue to make progress with the E-Series vehicles, we will keep you, our fans, in the loop. Over the next couple of weeks, we will share information with you on any changes as they become etched in stone. Ultimately, the E-Series process is put in place to learn more about the manufacturing and engineering of the production Elio and allows us to build the best possible vehicle.


Elio Preview Tour:

July 7-9: Iola Car Show - Iola, WI - Iola Car Show Tower 130 Jenson Drive Iola, WI 54945 - Times: Thurs - Sat 9am-6pm - http://www.iolaoldcarshow.com


Thanks for coming along on the journey and thank you for your support


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I will be greatly disappointed if the composite skin is replaced with any metal no matter what corrosion treatments are applied. I have owned a Saturn, as well as my present Mercedes, and the former was a lot easier to maintain its appearance due to rust as well as ding resistance. I am interested not only in initial price, but in long term cost and durability.
 

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I will be greatly disappointed if the composite skin is replaced with any metal no matter what corrosion treatments are applied. I have owned a Saturn, as well as my present Mercedes, and the former was a lot easier to maintain its appearance due to rust as well as ding resistance. I am interested not only in initial price, but in long term cost and durability.
The only thing I can remind everyone about is:

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We all have opinions on this because we have been told since the beginning that the Elio was going to be built a certain way.

"The questions about the body were all regarding the “100% made of steel body.” Sheet molded composite is still the design direction but we are looking at other materials, i.e. steel and other automotive skin materials that could help us make the vehicle better, safer, more reliable and improve upon our four tenets. All changes and potential improvements must fit within our four tenets and our existing timeline to be considered."

This doesn't mean that it will be metal and that's it; it says "we're going to try metal"
They could try it and find out it won't do what they expected, and try something else.
There are other extrusions that could work even better. If it was cheaper to do, I'm sure they would try a Carbon Fiber Composite.
I saw a new one that looked like bread dough and it hardened under pressure and heat.
So don't go crazy on this announcement yet.
 

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Actually, I have no problem with either a plastic or steel autocycle , they both have different characteristics and attributes, but who is to say which is best ?
Carbon Fiber probably 10 years away unless they can make a breakthrough in affordability . Aluminum not a good choice. So what ever ELIO decides will be okay with me.
 

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The only thing I can remind everyone about is:

Elio Owners Forum is not affiliated directly to Elio Motors.
If you have a question or comments directed to Elio Motors you should contact them.

Elio Motors can be contacted at:

Elio CS: Toll Free: (844) 289-3546
Direct: (480) 500-6800 Ext. 1
Phone Hours: M-F 9am – 3pm Central Time

Emails:
tellmemore@eliomotors.com
orders@eliomotors.com
support@eliomotors.zendesk.com
https://reservations.eliomotors.com/customer/account/

Mailing address:
Elio Motors, Inc.
2942 North 24th Street,
Suite 114-700
Phoenix, AZ 85016

We all have opinions on this because we have been told since the beginning that the Elio was going to be built a certain way.

"The questions about the body were all regarding the “100% made of steel body.” Sheet molded composite is still the design direction but we are looking at other materials, i.e. steel and other automotive skin materials that could help us make the vehicle better, safer, more reliable and improve upon our four tenets. All changes and potential improvements must fit within our four tenets and our existing timeline to be considered."

This doesn't mean that it will be metal and that's it; it says "we're going to try metal"
They could try it and find out it won't do what they expected, and try something else.
There are other extrusions that could work even better. If it was cheaper to do, I'm sure they would try a Carbon Fiber Composite.
I saw a new one that looked like bread dough and it hardened under pressure and heat.
So don't go crazy on this announcement yet.

I realize that, and have replied to Elio directly. Also understand that "Sheet molded composite is still the design direction", and am all for experimentation, but living in NH, would rather not have to fight to prevent rust, etc.so am trying to discourage them from going steel.
 

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I think I favor SMC.
Had a hail storm in early June.
About 3" of pea gravel sized (3/8" to 1/2") stones in 20 minutes.
My truck took about $2K in damage. Mostly roof and hood.
(Hood is aluminum, top is steel)
The fiberglass top on my jeep? None at all.
 

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I realize that, and have replied to Elio directly. Also understand that "Sheet molded composite is still the design direction", and am all for experimentation, but living in NH, would rather not have to fight to prevent rust, etc.so am trying to discourage them from going steel.
The stamped steel lower control arms are going to need some attention,in the "salt belt", over the long haul (re: 2003 Subaru call-back).
An aluminum option would be great...for the Elio.
 
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