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I am not a car expert, I only play one on the internet.
But...I do own a 2012 Focus. (edit: I own a 2011 Focus, excuse getting old.)
Front Wheel Drive , Power Steering, 103 Wheelbase, and an impressive 17' turn radius. If Ford can do it ...
 
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We (I) humans (me) do get laze with words. Why don't they use a standard measurement when describing how tight a car can turn! Like wheel base is always center to center. What about track, is that center to center of tire tread or outside to outside, and do they all do it the same way.
 

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We (I) humans (me) do get laze with words. Why don't they use a standard measurement when describing how tight a car can turn! Like wheel base is always center to center. What about track, is that center to center of tire tread or outside to outside, and do they all do it the same way.
Agreed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_radius
I would suggest wall to wall, easy to understand, and makes sense in the real world. WENDEKRIES!
 

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8/17/17 8:07 AM

Thank You for the constant communications. They are well written, and I enjoy the pictures.

My comment:
"The turning radius of the Elio is currently 28.9 feet."
This is not bad, but I would expect a small vehicle like Elio to be in the high teens, like a Ford Fiesta, or Focus.

A small turning radius helps in parking, u-turns, and other slow speed maneuvers. If you can shrink it down to where I think it should be, it would be another selling point.

Sincerely, Booboo

8/17/17 9:59 AM

Thanks for the great feedback Booboo- we've passed it along to the right department!


Best,
The Elio Team
 

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https://www.theautochannel.com/db/newcarbuyersguide/rank_car_specs.php

Select a vehicle body style category first then select to compare Turning Radius.

These are the top vehicles in each respective category:

Sedans
Mitsubishi Mirage - 30.2
Toyota Yaris - 32.2
Mitsubishi Lancer - 32.8
Kia Rio - 33.5
Hyundai Accent - 34.1

Coupes
Smart fortwo - 22.8
Mazda MX-5 Miata RF - 30.8
Nissan 370Z - 32.8
Lexus RC 350 - 34.2

Wagons
Fiat 500L - 32.3
Kia Soul - 34.8
Nissan Juke - 35.1
Honda Fit - 35.1

Minivans
Nissan Quest - 36.1
Ford Transit Connect - 36.1
Honda Odyssey - 36.7
Toyota Sienna - 37.4

Light Trucks
Ram Truck 1500 - 39.8
GMC Sierra 1500 - 40.0
Chevrolet Silverado 1500 - 40.0
Toyota Tacoma - 40.6
Ford F-150 - 40.7

SUV
Toyota CH-R - 34.1
Jeep Wrangler - 34.6
Mitsubishi Outlander - 34.8
Toyota RAV4 - 34.8
Subaru Crosstrek - 34.8
Kia Sportage - 34.8
Mazda CX-3 - 34.8
Subaru Forester - 34.8

Convertibles
Mazda MX-5 Miata - 30.8
Fiat 124 Spider - 30.8
Jaguar F-Type - 35.0
Volkswagen Beetle - 35.4
Mini Cooper - 35.4

The Smart fortwo is the ONLY 2017/2018 model year consumer production vehicle that has a turning radius tighter than the Elio's stated 28.9-ft.

The Mitsubishi Mirage, Mazda MX-5, Toyota Yaris, Fiat 500L, Mitsubishi Lancer and Nissan 370Z all rank just behind the Elio.

The commentary on this performance metrics has been lackluster at best. I feel as though we should be cheering and lauding the Elio as an ideal urban commuter vehicle with outstanding agility and maneuverability to conquer tight spaces, narrow alleyways, awkward parking areas, etc.
 

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I have a pretty good turning circle in my 2015 Hyundai Accent. not sure of the numbers but im kind of impressed with the electric assist rack and pinion steering.
 

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I could be wrong, but I suspect the author of V119 meant a turning circle of 28.9 feet.
I'd bet you could be correct there. We know the Elio can't turn very sharp because the fenders would hit the body but it shouldn't be THAT bad. Having said that, it IS possible it'll suck that bad.
 

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I'd bet you could be correct there. We know the Elio can't turn very sharp because the fenders would hit the body but it shouldn't be THAT bad. Having said that, it IS possible it'll suck that bad.
Hmm...

It seems the discrepancy between 'turning radius' and 'turning circle' is quite rampant indeed. I wish we knew which figures we were dealing with so fair comparisons could be made.
 
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