That's unfortunately is a reality that many will try to ignore. I have faith in Mark completing a fully tested production ready BEX but at what price? The hurdle is passing US standards, importing it, building it in numbers and the big "when" is anybody's guess.
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I value BEX’s opinion/progress updates/ engineering/fabrication skills, your moderator comments/opinion, and other Elio Owner’s member‘s comments/opinions. It’s what I liked and continue to like about Arcimoto’s Facebook Page. The Company encourages comments/opinions, listen, and indicate they learn from them. Also, true of the Arcimoto FUV Club. Oddly, I was 1 ($100 refundable) of 65,000 Elio reservationists that thought Paul Elio’s marketing statements were valid, on the skeptical side of the aisle. It’s good we don’t all think the same.
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Mark also has a Facebook popular page where he personally keeps folks updated on every aspect of his development of the BEX .... as much as I'd like to say otherwise, its been a long time since I placed any blind trust in any of the very few words that have been released by Elio
Grumpy Cat
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Well, remember how Elio kept everyone up-to-date early on, then shortly when the five (really 3 and then another shell) finalized prototypes, and communication essentially ended? Everyone has a good plan and steps until huge bundles of money are needed to get things rolling.
Both of you guys make solid arguments, and I would venture to say, both are to some degree correct.
Jury is still out on both arguments. I can't say as to which is stronger correct and incorrect.
I don't know, I can agree and disagree with either.
I to the point I am willing to hold my breath a little longer to see how this "new player" pans out.
So it's wait and see time
Jury is still out on both arguments. I can't say as to which is stronger correct and incorrect.
I don't know, I can agree and disagree with either.
I to the point I am willing to hold my breath a little longer to see how this "new player" pans out.
So it's wait and see time
Grumpy Cat
Elio Addict
And I'm not saying Mark can't do it, but we've all seen how hard it is to roll out a new car company. How many EV companies have failed, even with gov support? We all got burned (and I'll retract this if Paul is able to finally get this "car" released) on the Elio.
Now the one thing I'll give credit to Mark is, he's doing this on his own time and dime and not taking reservations and money (unless I'm mistaken?). I can't imagine the amount of time and effort he has to go through to do this.
He can design, engineer, and build a prototype, but what‘s required after that takes ‘angel investors’ and a team of people that share his vision to cross the FMVSS certified production model finish line and that takes years. I’m 75 and will be to old to test drive it. However, I would buy one for both my Grandson and Granddaughter if it checks all the boxes. I Envision a future BEX EV. 
Note: I wouldn’t consider a reservation deposit until after an actual test drive based on past concept vehicle reservation deposit experiences. “No Test Drive-No Reservation Deposit” - my new motto.
It’s interesting to watch the progress. I wish BEX luck. The worst case scenario, he builds a custom three wheeler for his personal daily commutes. I followed this open, partial, or fully enclosed three wheeler concept for 12 years that did make it to production in 2019, but still waiting 2+ years on the full door enclosure option and sales/service to expand to my home State:
My order is currently configured to this White Hot FUV:
Note: I wouldn’t consider a reservation deposit until after an actual test drive based on past concept vehicle reservation deposit experiences. “No Test Drive-No Reservation Deposit” - my new motto.It’s interesting to watch the progress. I wish BEX luck. The worst case scenario, he builds a custom three wheeler for his personal daily commutes.
I followed this open, partial, or fully enclosed three wheeler concept for 12 years that did make it to production in 2019, but still waiting 2+ years on the full door enclosure option and sales/service to expand to my home State:My order is currently configured to this White Hot FUV:
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hawg_ryder
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_hrI share your concern. I think it'll be a smart move for Mark to present his completed working BEX prototype to a bunch of established car and motorcycle builders (there's so many of them) in China where he's at and negotiate a fair price to build it in numbers. He can even approach the Chinese builder of SOLO!