P4

[KScarguy]

IMHO there are thee design issues with the P4:
The ugly dashboard, The squared off rear pan, and the weird body line across the hood at the top of the headlights.

Simple solutions...1, put the old dash back in, 2.Curve and soften the back end corners, and 3. change the headlights and remove the crease across the hood...just fix those and put it into production. No reason for a 1 year delay...This can be fixed in a month.

As for the fenders, I can go either way, they can be removed and swapped afterwards. Make it a fun option...choose a fender!

Time for all this nonsense to stop and move forward. Missing production deadlines just creates a lot of doubt.

 

[Frank Smith]

IMHO there are thee design issues with the P4:
The ugly dashboard, The squared off rear pan, and the weird body line across the hood at the top of the headlights.

Simple solutions...1, put the old dash back in, 2.Curve and soften the back end corners, and 3. change the headlights and remove the crease across the hood...just fix those and put it into production. No reason for a 1 year delay...This can be fixed in a month.

As for the fenders, I can go either way, they can be removed and swapped afterwards. Make it a fun option...choose a fender!

Time for all this nonsense to stop and move forward. Missing production deadlines just creates a lot of doubt.

The dash that is in the P4 is not the final dash according to Elio Motors.

 

[Ralphe]

WOW, Where did all the politics come from?
ARE WE HAVING FUN YET?

 

[RogWild]

Double D: Had not given thought to the third wheel location in relation to center drip line---good point!I believe any 3 wheel vehicle needs some well thought out driving skills---it has to handle differently than a 4 wheeler. And as far as Californians, Coloradoians, we don't need a bunch of weirdos from Calf. nor a bunch of brain scrambled "hopped up pot smokers" from Col. either!! And our pure air is ""sea & salt water washed"" into a purity you Yankees will never see in a life time ! RB

Oh, and Double D; I've seen the Denver SMOG..... when the wind wasn't blowing 30+!

 

[KScarguy]

Interesting picture of the inside of the fender of the P4. Shows cast upper and lower control arms that I thought were tubular.

 

[George Aldridge]

IMHO there are thee design issues with the P4:
The ugly dashboard, The squared off rear pan, and the weird body line across the hood at the top of the headlights.

Simple solutions...1, put the old dash back in, 2.Curve and soften the back end corners, and 3. change the headlights and remove the crease across the hood...just fix those and put it into production. No reason for a 1 year delay...This can be fixed in a month.

As for the fenders, I can go either way, they can be removed and swapped afterwards. Make it a fun option...choose a fender!

Time for all this nonsense to stop and move forward. Missing production deadlines just creates a lot of doubt.

Well, I am glad someone else also saw the back end change!
P4
P3

Everyone sing "Where has all the aerodynamics gone? Long time passing"

 

[Frosty]

Well, I am glad someone else also saw the back end change!
P4
P3
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Everyone sing "Where has all the aerodynamics gone? Long time passing"

If I have been following Elio-issued info correctly, the P4 rear end is MORE aerodynamic than the rounded P3. Just not as aesthetic to a lot of folks.

 

[KScarguy]

It is interesting to compare the version side by side. You can really see the changes in the details...like gas filler door, mirrors, rear window shape...etc.

 

[KScarguy]

FYI - The first version of the Elio was the shoe from "Who Framed Rodger Rabbit". HA!

 

[jtmarten]

If they would have color matched the rear cover, there would not be as much backlash over this. Once color matched it will look fine (prob an option or DIY to keep prod cost down). A larger rear light pod means increased rear and side visibility = increased safety, which is likely the major reason behind the change.