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EM was in fact never rejected but instead EM withdrew their ATVM application.

I know for a fact that you know this information as it has been discussed before and has been confirmed independently over time so you writing that EM failed is a FAIL in of itself and really pushing the line in terms of knowingly spreading false information.
They did in FACT 'apply' for the loan, they in FACT did not get it. Does not measure up to a SUCCESS in my book, more in the FAIL column!
 

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O.K now a rebuttal - I bet in your infinite wisdom, you didn't know "sea otters hold hands when they sleep to keep from drifting apart." get it? great, because it doesn't add anything to this discussion, ---as you are fond of doing. But I'm here to hold your hand. Please share the underlying causes of your frustration.
I'm here to help- job loss, wife walked out, ran out of meds? can all be resolved and help relieve your anxiety.
Sounds like more Elio Motors 'drivel'...... no substance, and NO PROGRESS.
 

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They did in FACT 'apply' for the loan, they in FACT did not get it. Does not measure up to a SUCCESS in my book, more in the FAIL column!

spin, spin, spin .... there is a difference in pulling an application and being rejected .... for EM, the first attempt had to be a learning experience .... one from which they learned and apparently benefited .... but then, when someone wants to only see negative, they see negative
 

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They did in FACT 'apply' for the loan, they in FACT did not get it. Does not measure up to a SUCCESS in my book, more in the FAIL column!
As you insist on dragging this out what you are doing is called lying by omission. You have now essentially admitted that you know the story but are purposely leaving out a key piece of information just to try and prove some point or spin a blatant lie into a less obvious one.

As you acknowledged it is a FACT that EM applied for an ATVM and then withdrew the application. As EM withdrew the application the FACT is that it would then be impossible for them to get the loan but you try and spin this as EM failing to be granted the loan which is not true.
 

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Smitty, I'm sorry to hear about the problems that you had with the EPA, however please avoid politics on the Elio forum. The thread hasn't become too bad yet, but I'm deleting the political posts so that a war doesn't start while I'm away.
I am sure you will also delete the I love Obama post Not that is ok but when one of us stand up to then the deleting starts.
Amazing how forms like this allow all the pro liberal comments people want to make but stand up to it and shut down right away.
 

Joshua Caldwell

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I deleted where the series of political posts took off, if you report that one I'll check it out. Mainly I look for negative political posts that are likely to start problems. If someone posted about loving Bush, I wouldn't agree but I wouldn't delete it unless there was a complaint about politics in the forum.
 

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I deleted where the series of political posts took off, if you report that one I'll check it out. Mainly I look for negative political posts that are likely to start problems. If someone posted about loving Bush, I wouldn't agree but I wouldn't delete it unless there was a complaint about politics in the forum.
Loving Bush. LOL
 
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