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Tech Talk 5/22/2014: The Engine That Drives The Elio

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Snipped: so now we have another missing piece in this puzzle.

Add to this, that we know Comau will do the machining & plasma spray of the production cast blocks @ the Shreveport plant (same as they did for GM) using their existing tooling, presumably, since they revisited the site earlier this year & declared that what was there would do the job..........

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Now the BIG question; since these BLOCKS still require machining, plasma spray lining, inspection, assembly (hopefully with parts already ON-HAND), and then 'testing'...... when will they be 'installation ready' for the P5 or "E" series...... JUNE or OCTOBER?
If that block showed up in a decent machine shop today, it could be ready for coating in a day or less.

Most coatings require a week or more lead time, then a couple days (conservative) for inspection/assembly.

The bottom line is that testing in June is possible.

Maybe it won't happen, maybe it's already running on the stand. Wait and see.
 

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If that block showed up in a decent machine shop today, it could be ready for coating in a day or less.

Most coatings require a week or more lead time, then a couple days (conservative) for inspection/assembly.

The bottom line is that testing in June is possible.

Maybe it won't happen, maybe it's already running on the stand. Wait and see.

My guess is that this motor has been on a testing stand over at IAV for a while now as we know from the previous information we had that these pictures were taken in late February. No matter what the date is this Tech Talk is great news as this fits in with the previous data including the article I just posted up the page a bit which said that these engines would be running in the second quarter of 2014 and it would appear that IAV has been able to meet that goal. I hope testing will go well without finding any major issues, I always expect minor revisions from a good thorough testing, so hopefully soon will get to see these motors running in actual Elio prototypes.
 

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These are still prototype parts and will continue to be until the plant is set up. IAV has the lead on testing and certification of the entire power train. They have the skills to get the job done properly.

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Yep, sort of a 'Catch 22'; "These are still prototype parts and will continue to be until the plant is set up", and the Plant can't be 'SET UP'..... until these engines are 'completed' and installed into the "18 to 26 vehicles" of the "E" series and TESTED.
 

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I see mention of the "E" series vehicles. Tell us about those... thanks!

The "E" series is the next step after Elio Motors has a final prototype design.
Up until this point, the prototypes have been built as a “one-off” for engineering purposes to answer specific questions. The next series of builds will be considered E builds where 18 to 26 vehicles, each numbered accordingly, will be built to address a specific mission (e.g., fuel economy) from which it will be evaluated against. It is also important to note that through each of these series of steps, the production assembly sequence, methodology and the needed tools are being finalized. Therefore, the objective is to prototype a vehicle for engineering as well as prototype the assembly process. This is a critical difference between Elio Motors and other automotive manufacturers given Paul’s vision was to take a more conservative approach in design by constantly keeping production capabilities at the forefront when developing the vehicle design.
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We live in a world of instant gratification. Rushing to find absolutes where they often don’t exist. And, when anxiously awaiting the arrival of something necessary, needed and game changing, like the Elio, we often forget that things most valuable to our existence take time.

Elio Motors continues to forge ahead with major developments. As noted on the timeline in the Elio Motors Tech Talk v4, (click here) one such development is the prototype kick-off for the engine block and cylinder head.

Elio Motors 3-Cylinder Block Program

IAV Automotive Engineering (click here), the power-train design and development engineering consultancy for Elio Motors, intends to produce engines using a high-pressure die casting process. To achieve this, IAV, together with Grainger & Worral (click here), will use their skilled expertise to design the prototyping process to replicate the design process for mass production.

Step 1: This process begins with the receipt of data from IAV. Best practices of manufacturing will be discussed to achieve the desired program timing and budget. While designing the tooling, IAV’s CAD model is checked for thin wall areas using specialized software. This activity is included in the design for manufacturability activities along with foundry processes including the addition of contraction, adding draft, removing undercuts and adding extra machining stock.

Step 2: As part of tooling, the gating and feeding system is to be designed for the casting. The introduction of the liquid metal into the mold cavity ultimately determines the integrity of the material and hence the functional life of a casting. The feeding system is used to ensure the last liquid metal to solidify is outside the net shape of the desired casting. Depending on the material properties required, chills can be used to enhance the properties of certain areas of the casting. For the 3-cylinder block this will be the cylinder bores and the bolt bosses.
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First prototype Elio Motors 3-cylinder block raw casting
A few sample parts are poured and left until solid for the initial casting validation. After this process, the castings are knocked-out and the gating and feeding systems are removed. The castings are dressed with joint lines and any flash is removed. Castings are then heat treated and finally shot blast to clean and improve the appearance.

Step 3: The purpose of this final step of the process is to validate the material integrity and dimensional accuracy of the part. Using a CT scanner, 1 mm image slices are manipulated by a software program into a digital 3D model. This model is then overlaid to IAV’s machine CAD model and reviewed by a metrology engineer. Any deviation from the IAV model is highlighted and reviewed by the project team. This information is then relayed back to IAV via an inspection report.

During the development process, small modifications had to be made for the water jacket and the clamping feature locations for final machining. These were all common items needing detail during the design for manufacturing process.

What’s Next?
As you can see, the first prototype Elio Motors 3–cylinder block has been cast and is in the process of being shipped to IAV in Northville, MI. The next steps will be to take the raw casting and machine all of the specific Elio features.

Using companies like IAV and Grainger & Worral provide leading word-class design for manufacturing processes and features to ensure prototype parts will perform as designed. Stay tuned for an update on the Elio cylinder head in an upcoming Tech Talk.

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First prototype Elio Motors 3-cylinder block raw casting -top view
Hello goofyone, please help me here: Not sure where or how these pictures of the IAV motor fits in; these pictures were taken back in March at "Bike Week," in Daytona Florida.
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Hello goofyone, please help me here: Not sure where or how these pictures of the IAV motor fits in; these pictures were taken back in March at "Bike Week," in Daytona Florida. View attachment 1163View attachment 1164 View attachment 1165 View attachment 1166 View attachment 1167
Great question Music Man! These are pictures of an engine mock up which Elio has been showing at events along with the various prototype cars. This is not an actual engine but instead it is a plastic representation designed to demonstrate the compact size of the engine and give everyone a general idea of what it will look like when completed.

There is also a nice video animation of the engine available on youtube.
 
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