The Importance Of A Clear Direction

[Ekh]

Looking at the frame structure and crumple zones (extended in the P5), I think the occupants would be as safe in frontal and rear end collisions as most cars. T-bone square in the door is bad news no matter what you're in, but it 'looks like to me' that if you had a side impact forward, or aft of the door, and if the side curtains deployed like they're supposed to, you 'might' actually fair better than if you were in side-by-side seating since you wouldn't go flying across to the passenger seat. But you're right, "we/I don't really know anything" until the results are in.

One reason Elio has backed off claiming "5-star safety" is that the tests for 4-wheel cars simply do not apply to 3-wheel vehicles, so EM is having to come up with test protocols that are as close to being apples-to-apples as possible. But the non-equivalence of tests protocols bars them from using the 5-star (or any star) rating. Doesn't mean the car is actually any less safe.

Just a footnote -- the Feds test for frontal crashes puts an average-size human dummy (male) in the driver's seat and an average-size female dummy in the front passenger seat. No way can this protocol apply to the Elio! So right there we have an apples-to-apples problem.

 

[3wheelin]

Just remember, when you go to pick up your Elio, don't do so flying your private jet or go to the retail center in a limousine. And for Pete's sake, leave the little girls who sprinkle rose petals ahead of you at home!

There ya go!

 

[3wheelin]

One reason Elio has backed off claiming "5-star safety" is that the tests for 4-wheel cars simply do not apply to 3-wheel vehicles, so EM is having to come up with test protocols that are as close to being apples-to-apples as possible. But the non-equivalence of tests protocols bars them from using the 5-star (or any star) rating. Doesn't mean the car is actually any less safe.

You got it Ekh!

 

[3wheelin]

Or "Take the Elio on a long road trip, ship your luggage there, and you'll still save money!" (Maybe not)

There's gotta be a way to install this baby if it's an absolute must!

 

[3wheelin]

Safety doesn't stop Harley Davidson from selling 250,000 motorcycles per year. It shouldn't stop EM from respectable sales. We all know the Elio is not automobile safe, but certainly safer than a typical motorcycle. Perhaps 50% of the current MC buyers will switch over to the much safer Elio or Arcimoto everyday electric. Makes good sense to me.

The actual selling price once our ELIO is out will be the determining factor how it'll perform in a picky market! 6-8k base price and it'll sell like hotcakes! 8-10k and some would rather invest in a used car that seats 4-5. 11K up are for the well to do fools that are just itching to turn our ELIO into an insane ride!

 

[Coss]

There's gotta be a way to install this baby if it's an absolute must!

Bungie cords, tube of construction adhesive and some 5 second fix.

 

[WilliamH]

There's gotta be a way to install this baby if it's an absolute must!

I don't want to be discouraging, but......
It looks like it is designed for a conventional width car.
You may want to check some dimensions before you get your heart set on that one.

 

[floydv]

I don't want to be discouraging, but......
It looks like it is designed for a conventional width car.
You may want to check some dimensions before you get your heart set on that one.

Here's a possible starting point for a DIY trailer for the Elio. It's even shaped like the Elio. Just add three wheels and a lock and you're good to go!

This one even has a template for the wheel axles and placement already marked up for your convenience. How thoughtful!

 

[floydv]

And blame Newton rather than Einstein. Einstein would tell that an Elio could "win" such a collision if it was going fast enough.

Einstein would explain why the Elio is safer than a Harley using his lesser-known "V-Twin Paradox."

 

[Cache Man]

Here's a possible starting point for a DIY trailer for the Elio. It's even shaped like it. Just add three wheels and a lock and you're good to go!

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This one even has a template for the wheel axles and placement already marked up for your convenience. How thoughtful!
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Interesting... I bet there are people dying to get one of those.