Indiana Dave
Elio Aficionado
Wow! Positive thinking abound. I like your style.
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Why Are Elio Owners In Interested In Elio?
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RUCRAYZE
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WOW!! reverse wheel configuration, but what an interesting ride- No Elio= move over Slingshot!!- No Shockwave..............?
Rear fender sweeps like the Morgan
Without the Elio, it pretty well leaves the field open, waiting for someone willing to do high volume production. I don't know of any. Slingshot, Shockwave, Morgans, all of these are low production, so not even close to the same category as an Elio, IMHO.
At that point, unless a Japan maker or Bombardier wants to play, all you can do is talk someone into building you a Riley XR3, or other kit car like my Atlantric. Maybe convert a Slingshot or Morgan? After the Honda 200 did so poorly in the US, it's doubtful any major maker would join.
There is only one possibility, the business model of carbon swaps, plus the advent of an Autocycle definition could actually encourage a major maker to jump in and snap-up the market, but only if Elio quits or succeeds(not from a market fail). VW almost did enter with a sport trike, but liabilities with the lack of supportive gov definition stopped them(still it was only high margin sport). Bombardier will not, they are only interested in sport-high-margin products in their developed market channels.
But finding interest is a long shot, a very long shot. Established players do not like risks of a total new product type. The Elio vehicle type certainly is new.
There is one more wild hair player, I'm actually afraid of(or intrigued by). The Chinese. Fortunately, they are distracted by trying their hardest to break into established or prestigious foreign or upscale local markets. The Slingshot is an exception(almost), but it actually rests in the sport-MC area, as was established by the CanAm Spider. Still, they are the source of the Zerbra and Zenn(marketed from Canada), even Smartcar parts, but none of that was completely outside-the-box thinking, and some were dismal failures. They tend to want to use other people's money to establish products, then undermine it through alternative channels. Best I understand, they leveraged an importer to fund and market the Slingshot. They like high volume, low risk. And they are, left alone, totally inept at marketing offshore.
Once our Autocycle is totally defined into US law, the same people who did the Zenn, they could create a successful Elio clone, only if Elio dropped out of the scene. But if Elio did drop out, would they even try?
We'll see competition no earlier than 1 year after Elio wins their market. More likely only after 3 years of success. The lower Elio keeps the price, the more likely they will stand alone.
At that point, unless a Japan maker or Bombardier wants to play, all you can do is talk someone into building you a Riley XR3, or other kit car like my Atlantric. Maybe convert a Slingshot or Morgan? After the Honda 200 did so poorly in the US, it's doubtful any major maker would join.
There is only one possibility, the business model of carbon swaps, plus the advent of an Autocycle definition could actually encourage a major maker to jump in and snap-up the market, but only if Elio quits or succeeds(not from a market fail). VW almost did enter with a sport trike, but liabilities with the lack of supportive gov definition stopped them(still it was only high margin sport). Bombardier will not, they are only interested in sport-high-margin products in their developed market channels.
But finding interest is a long shot, a very long shot. Established players do not like risks of a total new product type. The Elio vehicle type certainly is new.
There is one more wild hair player, I'm actually afraid of(or intrigued by). The Chinese. Fortunately, they are distracted by trying their hardest to break into established or prestigious foreign or upscale local markets. The Slingshot is an exception(almost), but it actually rests in the sport-MC area, as was established by the CanAm Spider. Still, they are the source of the Zerbra and Zenn(marketed from Canada), even Smartcar parts, but none of that was completely outside-the-box thinking, and some were dismal failures. They tend to want to use other people's money to establish products, then undermine it through alternative channels. Best I understand, they leveraged an importer to fund and market the Slingshot. They like high volume, low risk. And they are, left alone, totally inept at marketing offshore.
Once our Autocycle is totally defined into US law, the same people who did the Zenn, they could create a successful Elio clone, only if Elio dropped out of the scene. But if Elio did drop out, would they even try?
We'll see competition no earlier than 1 year after Elio wins their market. More likely only after 3 years of success. The lower Elio keeps the price, the more likely they will stand alone.
eddie66
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Has a timeline been set when Elio will have to pay the 7.5 million fine for not providing the1500 jobs he promised? I remember watching on the Caddo Parrish meeting when commissioner Epps said they agreed to give Elio an extension, but then reiterated, on production, not the fines. Has anyone heard of the exact date the fines would take effect?
as best I can remember and with my memory and that can be a bit sketchy, so long as EM appears to the Parrish officials to be moving to production in or before mid 2016 no fines will be imposed
Is this where future meets retro?
Wow. Great styling.
I noticed the driver has two doors.
at $25,000 it will cost more than 2 - 3 Elios .... interesting rig and its a 3 seater .... I have no doubt they will find a market if they can get it to production but I wouldn't be one of them
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$25,000? Wow, the styling isn't that great!
BillJ
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My reasons are simple, like many people, mainly it is the Fuel savings, but the added ability to use HOV lanes when riding alone, (which is a huge time saver) without having to ride a dangerous motorcycle... I love motorcycles, but there is just too much danger involved when you crash, with little to no protection. I like the idea of a fully enclosed cockpit, with all of the advanced safety features of a car.
Totally bizzar, if this notice is honest, I may have to eat my hat.
And several of my designs are in it's target scope.
The note is a year old however. Is the Slingshot a result? Who knows?
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection.html?id=ub8ad733b-1449-425c-8278-2fc199523210
And several of my designs are in it's target scope.
The note is a year old however. Is the Slingshot a result? Who knows?
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection.html?id=ub8ad733b-1449-425c-8278-2fc199523210