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Terrence

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I am glad they are getting closer to the 30,000.00! I am glad Jeff Porter typed in blue, blue is positive. I noticed the font in blue were a little larger, yet still a mild font height because I was able to read it without my reading glasses. Elio friend J. P. we are not far off, you want Elio with auto and cruise. I'm for auto, cruise, back up camera, 3d mirrors; I'll go for the marshmallow and you the creamsicle.
best to you Jeff P.
Terrence Bernard :) 49 mpg city, 84 mpg highway, just over 1,200 lbs, tandem design..... Hoorah it's an Elio, my way not to always drain my pay check with the yearly on going fuel cost
 

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I am glad they are getting closer to the 30,000.00! I am glad Jeff Porter typed in blue, blue is positive. I noticed the font in blue were a little larger, yet still a mild font height because I was able to read it without my reading glasses. Elio friend J. P. we are not far off, you want Elio with auto and cruise. I'm for auto, cruise, back up camera, 3d mirrors; I'll go for the marshmallow and you the creamsicle.
best to you Jeff P.
Terrence Bernard :) 49 mpg city, 84 mpg highway, just over 1,200 lbs, tandem design..... Hoorah it's an Elio, my way not to always drain my pay check with the yearly on going fuel cost

Name error above everyone. Replace the name Jeff P with music man (this reply was to Music man not Jeff Porter, excuse me Jeff Porter.
 

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You went to Star Trek? I am so jealous!!! :p Z

Big Star Trek fan here too Z! Loved the original TV series in the 60's, liked the first 3 movies, loved the 4th movie, was ok with the next 2-3 movies.

Loved The Next Generation TV series, did not get into Deep Space 9, there was another TV series in there that was ok, don't remember the name, with the woman captain (Janeway?).

Loved the movies with the Next Generation except for two, and loved the first two movies with the new folks (Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, etc.). I'm not sure I would travel hundreds of miles to go to a convention, but ya never know...
 

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Big Star Trek fan here too Z! Loved the original TV series in the 60's, liked the first 3 movies, loved the 4th movie, was ok with the next 2-3 movies.

Loved The Next Generation TV series, did not get into Deep Space 9, there was another TV series in there that was ok, don't remember the name, with the woman captain (Janeway?).

Loved the movies with the Next Generation except for two, and loved the first two movies with the new folks (Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, etc.). I'm not sure I would travel hundreds of miles to go to a convention, but ya never know...
Ditto on all that. Janeway was on 'Star Trek Voyager', and you didn't say anything about 'Star Trek Enterprise' the prequel. My wife, grandkids and I rediscovered those on Netflix and we all watched both entire series and loved it. Actually, I had never got interested in Enterprise expecting it to be a poor match to the original series and ST universe in general. Boy! Was I wrong! It was fabulous.
 

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Okay... Once again, I was gone for the week. I'm getting caught up. Here's the charts for the last data release. Oh, they are shiny and new, too.

Elio Monthly Numbers 2014 08.JPG
Elio Numbers 2014 08 10.JPG
 

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84/day is about a 15% reduction from the last month or so's numbers. It's disappointing, but, folks, we're looking at what's technically called a "run" chart, creating daily averages from a weekly (more or less) total. The actual daily numbers are probably scattered very widely, ranging from 25 to 175 or so per day. And that's normal. There is going to be plenty of variation within any given week, or month for that matter -- let alone day-by-day.

@Ty -- what's the period covered by your bar chart dated 1/1/1900 ? Also, where are you getting your daily numbers? (I think it's great if they're straight from the source).

In process control, you don't even have a trend line unless 6 or so measurement periods in a row are significantly up OR down from the weekly baseline average (or daily, if we were actually able to count that way).

This is fundamental stuff for measuring quality of a process. So far, there's nothing here to indicate any particular problems with the sales effort... nor any great successes, either. The boost after June 7 IS significant. What happened then?

There does seem to be a correlation between TV air time and reservations upticks, but I haven't don't have the data to really look at it.

Bottom line: if we saw weekly numbers dropping over a six week period, I'd worry. If we saw a huge spike (or drop) sustained over a couple of weeks, I'd ask why. But what we are actually seeing is a normal run chart, cooking along at a normal pace.

Believe me, Mr. Elio (and his production people) know all about the various kinds of run and quality charts. It's meat and bread for the auto industry. Marketing guys may be a little less familiar with such charts ... but I'm guessing they know what the trend line is, if there is one.

What will put a temporary spike (and maybe a permanent one) into the numbers (on the positive side) would be a major purchase order, a completed RUNNING engine, a Federal grant or other major investment ... heck, even a list of options (and estimated prices for them) might really help lift the trend line.
 
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Okay... Once again, I was gone for the week. I'm getting caught up. Here's the charts for the last data release. Oh, they are shiny and new, too.

View attachment 2141 View attachment 2140
Ty, you missed one date. The numbers for 8/3/2014 were 26378 for a total of 410 over a 4 day period for a total of 102.5 per day. :-) Z
 

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Okay... Once again, I was gone for the week. I'm getting caught up. Here's the charts for the last data release. Oh, they are shiny and new, too.

View attachment 2141 View attachment 2140
Ty,
I'm just curious, in the 'Cars Per Day' bar graph, do you have any idea what caused the spike on 01/19/1900??lol

This just proves that I, and a lot of others, not just like but pay attention to the info you provide, Thanks.
 

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84/day is about a 15% reduction from the last month or so's numbers. It's disappointing, but, folks, we're looking at what's technically called a "run" chart, creating daily averages from a weekly (more or less) total. The actual daily numbers are probably scattered very widely, ranging from 25 to 175 or so per day. And that's normal. There is going to be plenty of variation within any given week, or month for that matter -- let alone day-by-day.

@Ty -- what's the period covered by your bar chart dated 1/1/1900 ? Also, where are you getting your daily numbers? (I think it's great if they're straight from the source).

In process control, you don't even have a trend line unless 6 or so measurement periods in a row are significantly up OR down from the weekly baseline average (or daily, if we were actually able to count that way).

This is fundamental stuff for measuring quality of a process. So far, there's nothing here to indicate any particular problems with the sales effort... nor any great successes, either. The boost after June 7 IS significant. What happened then?

There does seem to be a correlation between TV air time and reservations upticks, but I haven't don't have the data to really look at it.

Bottom line: if we saw weekly numbers dropping over a six week period, I'd worry. If we saw a huge spike (or drop) sustained over a couple of weeks, I'd ask why. But what we are actually seeing is a normal run chart, cooking along at a normal pace.

Believe me, Mr. Elio (and his production people) know all about the various kinds of run and quality charts. It's meat and bread for the auto industry. Marketing guys may be a little less familiar with such charts ... but I'm guessing they know what the trend line is, if there is one.

What will put a temporary spike (and maybe a permanent one) into the numbers (on the positive side) would be a major purchase order, a completed RUNNING engine, a Federal grant or other major investment ... heck, even a list of options (and estimated prices for them) might really help lift the trend line.

This is ...sort of right, but so besides the point and kind of a non-sequiter.

Selling cars is not a process that you can control. Monitor for sure, but not really control. At all. Process control charts track Cp, Cpk, Pp, Ppk which are statistical measures, not arbitrary 6-point trends, necessarily.

I read that you have some familiarity with this, but not enough to apply it correctly. I don't say this to attack you, but your post above just 'fuzzes up' the issue by throwing around unnceccesary jargon, IMO.

I most definitely agree with you that this data *should* by its very nature be noisy.

The sales numbers speak for themselves, don't they?
 
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