Closer Look At The E1c

[Ekh]

You make a good point which I don't think I've recognized myself. As I mentioned, I have not been happy with the answers Jerome was giving. I think it's because, as you've point out, this could very well just be considered the P6. I have noticed that this is the E1-c. What is the 1 for? Elio appears to have just changed the name of the P series to E series. Initially, I believed that a lot more would have been finalized in the E series. Maybe the E2's which will be at the show next year will be close to the final units...

I think others that have expressed in Elio (and then get attacked for having a different opinion) are seeing the same thing. Elio is spinning wheels on "busy work" while Paul hopes to find the motherload of funding. Is there a single person who would choose not to buy and Elio if the gas was on the other side, the Elgin dash was used, the emblem wasn't pretty on the stearing wheel, the headlights weren't LED, the trunk latch wasn't robust,... My 1st post said it appeared there was poor project management. It may just be there is no funding to get the project done and the workers are just doing busy work.

The E1 series is for engineering tests. A second series is planned. The E-2 cars will be validation vehicles, probably about 100 of them -- very possibly the same 100 that are supposed to go to fleet operators.

Look at it this way. The E1 cars are to refine and test a design that is increasingly set and increasingly manufacturable. You cannot do formal fuel tests, for instance, without a fully-loaded production car. So the later vehicles in the E-series will be used for those tests.

The E2 cars are for validating the manufacturing process. It basically goes like this: the E1 vehicles are about the car itself. The E2 cars are about the manufacturing process more than the car.

 

[Ekh]

Good job, Joker. Some questions I have.

1. Is the windshield washer the final solution? (I understand that it is)]
2. What is the black square box in the back of the engine compartment (port side)?
3. How is the trunk secured? Is the prop rod the final solution for holding the trunk open? (It sticks pretty far out into the trunk compartment, robbing useful space)
4. I'm not sure I heard clearly -- are they re-routing the gas filler to the port side after all? And doing away with the Bulge? (That's a pretty major change at this stage in the game)

 

[Ekh]

I thought it came in very clear. Much better than some of the other videos from the Auto show

Get a directional mike

 

[NorTracNY]

The E1 series is for engineering tests. A second series is planned. The E-2 cars will be validation vehicles, probably about 100 of them -- very possibly the same 100 that are supposed to go to fleet operators.

Look at it this way. The E1 cars are to refine and test a design that is increasingly set and increasingly manufacturable. You cannot do formal fuel tests, for instance, without a fully-loaded production car. So the later vehicles in the E-series will be used for those tests.

The E2 cars are for validating the manufacturing process. It basically goes like this: the E1 vehicles are about the car itself. The E2 cars are about the manufacturing process more than the car.

I am aware of the 100 pre-production vehicles planned for Dec 2016, now Q3 2017. I have never heard Elio refer to them as engineering. Paul has said they are planned to be sold as fleet vehicles.

 

[NorTracNY]

Good job, Joker. Some questions I have.

1. Is the windshield washer the final solution? (I understand that it is)]
2. What is the black square box in the back of the engine compartment (port side)?
3. How is the trunk secured? Is the prop rod the final solution for holding the trunk open? (It sticks pretty far out into the trunk compartment, robbing useful space)
4. I'm not sure I heard clearly -- are they re-routing the gas filler to the port side after all? And doing away with the Bulge? (That's a pretty major change at this stage in the game)

I thought I heard from the video that the black box closest to the port side is the fuse box and the one more to the center and the driver is the battery.
I also believe they said the filler was moving to the port side and the bulge was gone. Something about routing the exhaust inside the frame. I agree that sounds like a significant change.

 

[Elio Amazed]

I thought it came in very clear. Much better than some of the other videos from the Auto show

Wonderfully clear here too.

 

[Ty]

With all the changes from the P5, the E1C could be called P6. and more changes to come!
I would like to know why the fuel fill will be moved.
also, it has been said that some team members give different answers to the same question. I hope this team member gave all the correct answers. and if, later, the fuel fill does not move, it won't brother me. This is a work in progress and things will change from day to day.

Good video!

While I don't know the actual reason, the only issue I had with it on the right side was that it was directly above the exhaust exit. I can just see someone overfilling their gas tank and ending up with gas running down the exhaust pipe looking for the engine... If it ran down the outside of the exhaust pipe, that could be even more trouble...

 

[Coss]

Good job, Joker. Some questions I have.

1. Is the windshield washer the final solution? (I understand that it is)]
2. What is the black square box in the back of the engine compartment (port side)?
3. How is the trunk secured? Is the prop rod the final solution for holding the trunk open? (It sticks pretty far out into the trunk compartment, robbing useful space)
4. I'm not sure I heard clearly -- are they re-routing the gas filler to the port side after all? And doing away with the Bulge? (That's a pretty major change at this stage in the game)

I think that Joeker put him up to saying that just to get us to go crazy.
The filler has always been on the right through all the different changes and if I recall, we were always told it was an engineer design, and that it could only go on the right side. Same thing with the exhaust bulge, there wasn't enough clearance under the car to do it.

As for gas running down the side on to the exhaust, we had a long conversation on that already; the reality was, it's not a safety issue.

 

[Ty]

Well, if Joeker did such a thing, it would ruin his hard-fought trust. I would hope he wouldn't do such a thing. But, who knows. I also know the filler cap position isn't a safety issue anywhere it ends up but if they moved it, there must be a reason. I don't know why they'd move it AFTER building the stamps for the body panels though...

 

[Elio Amazed]

The Dark Lord Elgin is not happy.

Long live the resistance.