Elio's time has come again?

[RSchneider]

Pauls number is his used car dealer in Phoenix. Just get it from there.

For the SEC, there's a period of time that you have to make a filing. They will give you a warning letter and then 30 days to get a filing. If not, then you are delisted. This happened to Moller International. Then you are stuck with finding someone somewhere to either sell or buy. After a while, those stocks start being eliminated as they are below the threshold for price.

I bet Arcimoto is lean. They probably need no more than 2 people. As for Vanderhall, I don't see what value Arcimoto has to pretty much anyone.

 

[Rickb]

Pauls number is his used car dealer in Phoenix. Just get it from there.

For the SEC, there's a period of time that you have to make a filing. They will give you a warning letter and then 30 days to get a filing. If not, then you are delisted. This happened to Moller International. Then you are stuck with finding someone somewhere to either sell or buy. After a while, those stocks start being eliminated as they are below the threshold for price.

I bet Arcimoto is lean. They probably need no more than 2 people. As for Vanderhall, I don't see what value Arcimoto has to pretty much anyone.

Arcimoto has no value beyond the fully certified FUV and MUV. A company (Vanderhall, Can Am, Polaris. Etc.) that is currently manufacturing three wheelers, could offer a buyout or partner to assist in making the tweaks and full enclosure option needed for mass production, tool an assembly line in their current manufacturing plant and add the FUV and MUV to their model lineup. Based on the performance and handling experienced during my test drive, I would still buy one in a heartbeat from a local sales and servicing dealer. The FUV creates a lot of excitement when people see it. The early adopters like it and those close enough to Eugene and within range of the mobile service techs are keeping their FUVs on the road.

 

[aknaten]

I had a 2018 Chryser Pacifica Hybrid Limited until last month when an elderly gentleman did a sudden U-Turn in front of me and I totaled my car. He went to the hospital, I had minor injuries.
Needing something to drive, I settled o n a 2017 Chevy Volt with 70 miles. Has anyone on this forum tried this car? 50 miles on the battery, 40 mpg on regular gas. I’m enjoying mine at the moment.

 

[Hog]

My company bought or leased two of those. I thought they were horrible. with two guys in it we started on a 200 mile trip, first thing we did was have to stop and get gas. Maybe made it 20 miles or so. After that it was gas all the way to the job site and back. They got rid of them in a few months. They bought those underpowered Ford transits instead. Those didnt last long either, maybe a year, then they bought a pair of GM minivans, they are still using those.

 

[Bilbo B]

My Google Search Alert just turned up this article, stating the time for Elio was last year. Early 2024 production, in fact.

Does AI know something we don't?

 

[RSchneider]

Arcimoto has no value beyond the fully certified FUV and MUV. A company (Vanderhall, Can Am, Polaris. Etc.) that is currently manufacturing three wheelers, could offer a buyout or partner to assist in making the tweaks and full enclosure option needed for mass production, tool an assembly line in their current manufacturing plant and add the FUV and MUV to their model lineup. Based on the performance and handling experienced during my test drive, I would still buy one in a heartbeat from a local sales and servicing dealer. The FUV creates a lot of excitement when people see it. The early adopters like it and those close enough to Eugene and within range of the mobile service techs are keeping their FUVs on the road.

Fully certified adds what value? According to the NHTSA:

"The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) utilizes a self-certification process for autocycles and other motor vehicles, meaning manufacturers are responsible for ensuring their vehicles comply with applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS). NHTSA does not pre-approve vehicles or equipment; instead, they conduct compliance testing on a sample of vehicles after they are introduced into the market."

So Arcimoto self certified. That means anyone can do the same and thus, not really something of value. As for the rest, the sales did not show that it was a hit with other than the hard core enthusiasts. As we see, those sales were pretty small. Again, I don't see what value Arcimoto brings. If this compliance is done right at the beginning, then it's just fine. So in a nutshell, do your homework up front.

 

[RSchneider]

My Google Search Alert just turned up this article, stating the time for Elio was last year. Early 2024 production, in fact.

Does AI know something we don't?

Elio went into production. I have one and it's yellow with the turbo on it. Cost me $5600. I hypermile it and it gives 99.3 mpg. So, if you want one, better call Paul.

 

[Greg@Dragonfly]

Fully certified adds what value? According to the NHTSA:

"The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) utilizes a self-certification process for autocycles and other motor vehicles, meaning manufacturers are responsible for ensuring their vehicles comply with applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS). NHTSA does not pre-approve vehicles or equipment; instead, they conduct compliance testing on a sample of vehicles after they are introduced into the market."

So Arcimoto self certified. That means anyone can do the same and thus, not really something of value. As for the rest, the sales did not show that it was a hit with other than the hard core enthusiasts. As we see, those sales were pretty small. Again, I don't see what value Arcimoto brings. If this compliance is done right at the beginning, then it's just fine. So in a nutshell, do your homework up front.

I believe Archimoto stills owns the patent for the overall vehicle design. Also Tilting Motor Works had a bunch of patents, and they were bought by Archimoto so presumably they are all assigned to Archimoto? Some of these may be getting near expiration, but I would guess there is still value in the patents. Here is the original vehicle patent:

 

[Rickb]

Fully certified adds what value? According to the NHTSA:

"The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) utilizes a self-certification process for autocycles and other motor vehicles, meaning manufacturers are responsible for ensuring their vehicles comply with applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS). NHTSA does not pre-approve vehicles or equipment; instead, they conduct compliance testing on a sample of vehicles after they are introduced into the market."

So Arcimoto self certified. That means anyone can do the same and thus, not really something of value. As for the rest, the sales did not show that it was a hit with other than the hard core enthusiasts. As we see, those sales were pretty small. Again, I don't see what value Arcimoto brings. If this compliance is done right at the beginning, then it's just fine. So in a nutshell, do your homework up front.

The value is Arcimoto crossed the production finish line with a fully certified FUV Platform, manufactured, sold, and delivered vehicles. The first 100 vehicle owners were test pilots. Frohnmeyer stated that the certifcation process was a nightmare from hell…..sending multiple test vehicles to various testing sites. The value of certification is somebody could buy out Arcimoto and start limited production immediately or mass production providing they make the improvements that were required for production scale, parts suppliers, a manufacturing facility, and a partnering dealer, sales, and servicing network in place. I’d buy a FUV in a heartbeat (fully or partially enclosed) with available local sales and service.

 

[RSchneider]

The value is Arcimoto crossed the production finish line with a fully certified FUV Platform, manufactured, sold, and delivered vehicles. The first 100 vehicle owners were test pilots. Frohnmeyer stated that the certifcation process was a nightmare from hell…..sending multiple test vehicles to various testing sites. The value of certification is somebody could buy out Arcimoto and start limited production immediately or mass production providing they make the improvements that were required for production scale, parts suppliers, a manufacturing facility, and a partnering dealer, sales, and servicing network in place. I’d buy a FUV in a heartbeat (fully or partially enclosed) with available local sales and service.

Mark said that 25K were to be built this year too. So, then everything he says is true? If so, why is he not still steering the Arcimoto ship as he must know what he's doing. Yet he walked away when he never had to. Explain to me why he disappeared. We'd like to know. It's not because of the DUI either because that was the prime opportunity to turn a bad into a good. Think about it, Arcimoto CEO and founder pushes for fun to be with the FUV instead of alcohol. Then sponsor a number of programs. Instead, he went away into some unknown area and left Arcimoto to fail.