Elio Kit, Would You Still Buy?

[goofyone]

The hub motor in the rear sounds like a very fun project, as an electrical engineer I really enjoy playing with this sort of thing, however the issues I see are the addition of a large amount of extra unsprung weight located at the very rear of this vehicle which does not sound like a good idea in terms of vehicle handling.

This being said this is a relatively inexpensive platform for tinkering and I expect to see a lot of that going. I will enjoy watching people get creative whether it works well or not. I even have a few ideas for mods and even an engine swap when I decide to buy a second one.

 

[Folks]

The hub motor in the rear sounds like a very fun project, as an electrical engineer I really enjoy playing with this sort of thing, however the issues I see are the addition of a large amount of extra unsprung weight located at the very rear of this vehicle which does not sound like a good idea in terms of vehicle handling.

This being said this is a relatively inexpensive platform for tinkering and I expect to see a lot of that going. I will enjoy watching people get creative whether it works well or not. I even have a few ideas for mods and even a full on engine swap when I decide to buy a second one.

Quit playing(tinkering around) and get us a really dense power pack or battery for electric. LOL Last I herd was "Lithium ion Titanate".

http://www.brighthubengineering.com.../104498-lithium-titanate-batteries-explained/

 

[JF]

The hub motor in the rear sounds like a very fun project, as an electrical engineer I really enjoy playing with this sort of thing, however the issues I see are the addition of a large amount of extra unsprung weight located at the very rear of this vehicle which does not sound like a good idea in terms of vehicle handling.

This being said this is a relatively inexpensive platform for tinkering and I expect to see a lot of that going. I will enjoy watching people get creative whether it works well or not. I even have a few ideas for mods and even an engine swap when I decide to buy a second one.

This unit only weighs 75 lbs. Maybe the swing arm would have to be beefed up: which would add some more weight. The weight distribution would move back. As an electrical engineer....Is their a way to keep the motor from over powering the engine?

 

[Wheelthang]

Seeing that Elio Motors is not likely to raise its 200M by next year, would you still buy if the business model changed to producing a kit version?

Assume kit includes:

• frame, chassis, doors, hinges
• Signals, mirrors, exterior lights, glass
• Interior bits--dash, HVAC controls with flaps, heater, AC box, fan, blank port for radio/GPS/electronics
• Reinforced engine and transmission mount points and customizable hardware for most transverse 3 or 4 cylinder donor engines, including fluid-filled pendulum style mount bushings. Includes "dog-bone" bushings and various mounting points to prevent front/back engine swing.
• exhaust mount hangers and brackets with many mount locations and heat shielding kit.
• Emblems, paint options, protective coatings options.
• Latches, locks, pre-keyed. Hood and trunk struts as options.
• Recommended tire and wheel list.
• Suspension components with options for tune-ability.
• Brakes or brake recommendations for 'plug & play' friendliness.
• Engine/transmission recommended list with build sheets and wiring harness rewiring guides.
• gas tank or bladder with mounts and pumps.
• Shipping to your front door

If you had to provide the drivetrain and integrate it, would you buy?

Please be open-minded and just treat this as a "what if?" question.

"Seeing that Elio Motors is not likely to raise its 200M by next year". Can you expound on where/how you cam to this conclusion?

 

[Wheelthang]

Since this is hypothetical, no, I'd wait for the lit C1 instead.

Not about your post, JNR, but rather your profile pic. Did you photoshop to get the Canary pic or do they have a yellow prototype?

 

[Rickb]

I see from your graph that it is instant torque, not hp like I posted previously. Kind of like my old Harley!

................like the new Electric Harley!

 

[Jim H]

IMHO an electric Harley will NOT be a big seller.

 

[Rickb]

"Seeing that Elio Motors is not likely to raise its 200M by next year". Can you expound on where/how you cam to this conclusion?

Rickb quote: "I've concluded that Elio Motors will have funding coming out of their ears by next year!". Feel free to use it.

 

[CheeseheadEarl]

IMHO an electric Harley will NOT be a big seller.

Sure they will. Once they get the high tech playing card in the sppkes perfected, so it still sounds like a '37 John Deere.

 

[Wheelthang]

Rickb quote: "I've concluded that Elio Motors will have funding coming out of their ears by next year!". Feel free to use it.

Thanx Rickb but I have plenty of toilet paper. What I need, low, hunger for, are facts and sources for such. And no, I don't rely on faith. But I do enjoy watching the magic show some of you guys puts on.