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DikiJ

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Waiting with optimism, Getting such a large endeavor off the drawing board and bringing so many different organizations together, is a real hassle at best, I wish the ELIO team GOD speed and good luck,,,,,
Bienvenue from cajun country. This is the best place to get the latest info on Elio progress. Enjoy.
 

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Wow that's a long article! Most of it is just a summary of old information . But there was one section that I had never seen reported anywhere so I'll post it here to save everyone some time:


The employee said more than a half-dozen people were hired for an expected four-month contract to build five Elio Motors prototypes.

“That was the start of what we should’ve realized is going to be a long nightmare build,” the employee said. For the first two months, there were no supplies to build the prototypes, they said.

“It started immediately with parts trickling in, guys standing around painting the shop,” the employee said.


The design of the car seemed right on a computer model, the worker said, but “nothing fit.” Door panels didn’t fit. Frames had to be handmade.


“There was no communication with the suppliers, what needed to be done, what they should do,” the employee said. “We had to cut 300 holes in these frames to make the interior fit, and to bond on the plastic panels.”

All in all, the contract lasted three months longer than expected. Only two cars were completed. A third prototype was mostly finished, the employee said, but an engine wasn’t completed for it.

“Paul [Elio] was there to see the car being built, but he was never there to address the problems with it,” the employee said. “Our thoughts were, ‘This is your design, this is your name, shouldn’t you have input on why it’s not going well, why it needs to be changed?’ He was never there for it.”


That was painful to read. This is where I wish stts could weigh in with his engineering knowledge. It sounds like a complete nightmare, but maybe this is just part of the challenge of building a car that has to be overcome. Thoughts from you folks???
 

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Paul Elio may have a management style where he has delegated these issues to someone and is expecting them to do their job. This frees him up to concentrate on the financing. This is also a case where having more prototype money is beneficial. There are also times where the prototypes allow the discovery of shortcomings in the computer engineering. After all, that is the primary function of prototypes. To discover faults. According to Elio statements, they have about nine employees. What do they all do?

Them having employees assembling prototypes however may be considered "production" and may throw a wrench into the license issues they have with Louisiana. Haven't heard anything on that issue lately.
 

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Wow that's a long article! Most of it is just a summary of old information . But there was one section that I had never seen reported anywhere so I'll post it here to save everyone some time:


The employee said more than a half-dozen people were hired for an expected four-month contract to build five Elio Motors prototypes.

“That was the start of what we should’ve realized is going to be a long nightmare build,” the employee said. For the first two months, there were no supplies to build the prototypes, they said.

“It started immediately with parts trickling in, guys standing around painting the shop,” the employee said.

The design of the car seemed right on a computer model, the worker said, but “nothing fit.” Door panels didn’t fit. Frames had to be handmade.


“There was no communication with the suppliers, what needed to be done, what they should do,” the employee said. “We had to cut 300 holes in these frames to make the interior fit, and to bond on the plastic panels.”

All in all, the contract lasted three months longer than expected. Only two cars were completed. A third prototype was mostly finished, the employee said, but an engine wasn’t completed for it.

“Paul [Elio] was there to see the car being built, but he was never there to address the problems with it,” the employee said. “Our thoughts were, ‘This is your design, this is your name, shouldn’t you have input on why it’s not going well, why it needs to be changed?’ He was never there for it.”


That was painful to read. This is where I wish stts could weigh in with his engineering knowledge. It sounds like a complete nightmare, but maybe this is just part of the challenge of building a car that has to be overcome. Thoughts from you folks???

This was obviously the Michigan build team. And it was obviously from when they were using the tube frame. They've moved on from then and these fitment issues may have driven the move to a space frame. It probably also drove them to use steel body panels. Either way, it's quite a long time ago.
 

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Paul Elio may have a management style where he has delegated these issues to someone and is expecting them to do their job. This frees him up to concentrate on the financing. This is also a case where having more prototype money is beneficial. There are also times where the prototypes allow the discovery of shortcomings in the computer engineering. After all, that is the primary function of prototypes. To discover faults. According to Elio statements, they have about nine employees. What do they all do?

Them having employees assembling prototypes however may be considered "production" and may throw a wrench into the license issues they have with Louisiana. Haven't heard anything on that issue lately.
These were assembled in Michigan - not Louisiana.
 

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Wow that's a long article! Most of it is just a summary of old information . But there was one section that I had never seen reported anywhere so I'll post it here to save everyone some time:


The employee said more than a half-dozen people were hired for an expected four-month contract to build five Elio Motors prototypes.

“That was the start of what we should’ve realized is going to be a long nightmare build,” the employee said. For the first two months, there were no supplies to build the prototypes, they said.

“It started immediately with parts trickling in, guys standing around painting the shop,” the employee said.

The design of the car seemed right on a computer model, the worker said, but “nothing fit.” Door panels didn’t fit. Frames had to be handmade.


“There was no communication with the suppliers, what needed to be done, what they should do,” the employee said. “We had to cut 300 holes in these frames to make the interior fit, and to bond on the plastic panels.”

All in all, the contract lasted three months longer than expected. Only two cars were completed. A third prototype was mostly finished, the employee said, but an engine wasn’t completed for it.

“Paul [Elio] was there to see the car being built, but he was never there to address the problems with it,” the employee said. “Our thoughts were, ‘This is your design, this is your name, shouldn’t you have input on why it’s not going well, why it needs to be changed?’ He was never there for it.”


That was painful to read. This is where I wish stts could weigh in with his engineering knowledge. It sounds like a complete nightmare, but maybe this is just part of the challenge of building a car that has to be overcome. Thoughts from you folks???
This is absolutely horrible!
 
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