Pictures Of The P5 With The New Motor

[am_fm_radio]

On the side of the bell housing is a flange and rubber boot. Clutch linkage connection... Automatics do not have that...
So that transmission is Manual -- hopefully a 5 speed or better...

 

[am_fm_radio]

The rubber boot on the left side of the bell housing is for the clutch throw out arm linkage.. Hope it is 5 speed or better.
I never learned how to drive an automatic transmission.

 

[Ekh]

It will be interesting to see a dyno curve on this engine. As others have pointed out, the intake tubes have been optimized for torque, with that and the long stroke delivering max power at very low rpms, under 2500. But how will it accelerate, and how long from, say, 60 to 100 vs 0 to 60? With all that torque it probably could haul a small trailer, if the frame would stand the stresses. Which EM is saying quite clearly they haven't engineered for. Sooner or later the torque curve will be published, and enquiring minds definitely do want to know.

 

[DanS]

It will be interesting to see a dyno curve on this engine. As others have pointed out, the intake tubes have been optimized for torque, with that and the long stroke delivering max power at very low rpms, under 2500. But how will it accelerate, and how long from, say, 60 to 100 vs 0 to 60? With all that torque it probably could haul a small trailer, if the frame would stand the stresses. Which EM is saying quite clearly they haven't engineered for. Sooner or later the torque curve will be published, and enquiring minds definitely do want to know.

The issue I see with the Elio pulling a trailer is the amount of rubber on the ground at the rear. With 1 tire I can see it only being able to handle a small light weight trailer. It's not just about it's power abilities, it's also about the ability to handle the load when it pushes on the car.

 

[Ty]

That is awesome to hear Ty regarding the frame. Thanks

No problem. It was my turn to ask questions at one of the tour stops and report back. We are all part of the Elio Collective.

 

[Muzhik]

The issue I see with the Elio pulling a trailer is the amount of rubber on the ground at the rear. With 1 tire I can see it only being able to handle a small light weight trailer. It's not just about it's power abilities, it's also about the ability to handle the load when it pushes on the car.

Speaking as a complete nube ... What do you imagine the characteristics would be if you had a lightweight 3-wheeled trailer -- one wheel in front and two in the rear? I'm imagining an Elio version of the Teardrop camper, or more precisely, a Little Boy My Pod, as shown in the link. It's rated to be towed by a coupe, with lots of pictures of it being towed by one of those 3-wheeled motorcycles.

(I just realized that the My Pod isn't 3-wheeled, it's 2-wheeled. Don't know what difference that would make.)

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

The issue I see with the Elio pulling a trailer is the amount of rubber on the ground at the rear. With 1 tire I can see it only being able to handle a small light weight trailer. It's not just about it's power abilities, it's also about the ability to handle the load when it pushes on the car.

Sure you can make it go.... but can you make it stop.
Or complete a turn without jackknifing.

Combine this with "How Big a Tire Can Fit Underneath" thread and we have gold.

 

[DanS]

Speaking as a complete nube ... What do you imagine the characteristics would be if you had a lightweight 3-wheeled trailer -- one wheel in front and two in the rear? I'm imagining an Elio version of the Teardrop camper, or more precisely, a Little Boy My Pod, as shown in the link. It's rated to be towed by a coupe, with lots of pictures of it being towed by one of those 3-wheeled motorcycles.

(I just realized that the My Pod isn't 3-wheeled, it's 2-wheeled. Don't know what difference that would make.)

The best answer to controlling the weight of the trailer is to put brakes on it. When you go to stop, all the weight of the trailer will be pushing the Elio. The Elio might be able to handle a direct push because all three wheels will be helping. But if that push becomes off center then the front tires have less control and it will simply push the back end of the car to one side. With less rubber on the ground you have less control. If you have ever pulled a trailer behind a regular truck (two rear tires) and then pulled one behind a Dually (four rear tires) you can feel the difference in control.

 

[DanS]

Maybe someone could design some external Egg shaped pods that a person could attach toward the back of the Elio for extra storage. Place them about the same area as the engines on an A10 Thunderbolt.

 

[RUCRAYZE]

I know the gear heads don't give a hoot , the trailering voids the warrantee