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Something’s Gotta Give.....

Discussion in 'General Elio Discussion' started by Watashiwah, Nov 27, 2017.

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    It was an old Prius he had since new, with lots of miles, I think over 100K on it, but still looked good. Decided to sell it as a junker, because the battery replace was only a little bit less than the total car worth, with it replaced.
    He is a G.P Dr of Medicine, so affordability was not the issue.
     
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    The EV3 never went into production, it was delayed as they decided to change powertrain suppliers.
     
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    I am wondering what the Sondors price will be with front wheel drive and max range battery, the only configuration I might like.
    Not 10K.
     
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    Good question... Will look for that tomorrow but I'm planning only having an 2 ELIOs...one for my wife to run away with me :D:p
     
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    OK, thanks for being gentle. I found a Dec. article that says Q4 '18. The Vanderhall's a little pricey.
    I think the Ampere has a similar roadster thing going on. That's a heck of a difference in price.
    Considering the Ampere is $9.9K? The big question there is, will they make it to production?

    The biggest thing here is that the Elio was/is? intended to be as much of a utilitarian vehicle as three wheels and $7800 will allow it to be. I don't think you're going to see many people commuting in the snow and salt in their expensive Vanderhalls and Morgans. On that basis, I'd venture that the Solo was designed as a primarily a utilitarian vehicle also. Although it's namesake single seat makes it a commuter and personal vehicle with limited range and not a lot of utility beyond that. Hey, that may be enough. If had a mid-range commute 5 and 6 days a week, I'd be a lot more interested. It may also be somewhat more seasonally limited by the rear-wheel drive even though EMV claims it does very well in the snow and It does have a very low center of gravity. And... there's no doubt in mind at all that J.K. and EMV already know that they'll need to put A/C in the Solo to complete the package. The Morgans and Vanderhall's may be ligit and vehicles worthy of respect, but I consider them no more than that in the form of a rich person's toy.
     
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    The original three wheeler. While waiting on ELIO 8019 I have not been sitting around. Installed a Sidecar on my 750 Harley Street. It worked out very well. At least I can enjoy it .
    While waiting on ELIO 2 new cars 4 new bikes and retired a second time. Still waiting.
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    Something smells fishy. Missing lots of details that would possibly make this make any sense at all.

    The warranty for a Prius battery in California, and many other states, is 10-year/150k miles. So first make sure that it is out of warranty. Let's assume it's just past the 10-year point.

    Toyota's quoted price for a factory new battery for a 10 year old Prius ('04-'08 model years) is only $2,600.00. Labor for the replacement at an experienced mechanic is about 4 hours. So, maybe $600 more at $150 an hour? $3,200 out the door for a brand new battery straight from Toyota.

    (If your 10 year old Prius is worth less than $3,200 then I have news for you: You've beat the $#!+ out of it.)

    Interestingly enough, this is almost exactly the same price as a new engine for a 2008 Honda Accord. How much do you think labor cost will be to replace an engine in an '08 Accord? Maybe a bit more than 4 hours?

    A complete reconditioned battery for an old Prius can be had for as little as $1,500. Some places sell their reconditioned batteries with a three-year, full replacement, non-prorated warranty, though it will run you a bit higher price.

    Or you can go real cheap, and just buy the battery out of a wrecked Prius. You an find complete Prius batteries for as little as $550.

    The most common problem for batteries, though, is that individual cells go bad. Individual cell replacement for Prius batteries can be done by a shop for as little as $600. That's $100 for the cell, and the rest is labor. An accomplished DIY expert could, umm, DIY. Individual cells and instructions are available on Amazon, with free Prime shipping. :p

    So a "bad battery" could be repaired for as little as $600 by a shop.


    So, yeah, I don't believe this guy's story. Unless his Prius was a total rust-bucket junker. There was something else going here, or he's just simply wanted to get something new, and didn't feel like admitting it.
     

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