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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Elio Amazed, Nov 22, 2019.
In ten years I will be too old to load the truck. Maybe get one used.
Usually, those bed covers raise the CD... plus, you can get them on pretty much any truck produced. It's kind of nice that Tesla is putting one on their truck though. Hmm... if it has all the autopilot stuff in it and isn't as wide as my F350...
make that a very weakly swung sledge hammer. When that guy "swung" at the Tesla, I almost spit my drink out I laughed so hard. Never has a person put so much theatrics in such a slight hit. At first, I thought the hammer didn't make it all the way to the truck! But still, pretty ballsy move to do that at all in a live broadcast. It was bad enough to have to stand in front of the two broken windows. I'd almost buy the fact that maybe that little hammer hit damaged the window and that's why it broke but he didn't hit the back door...
Same here but at 24 miles round trip... when compared to my diesel getting 13 MPG, the Elio would have paid for itself... I've moved, my commute is much shorter, but that truck still gets 13 MPG...
Makes me wonder why people would not just buy an old used VW TDI for $1500, spend another $2K on replacing anything that breaks, insure it only for liability then enjoy 42 city and 49 highway. The Elio will not be out for at least 76 weeks and even when it is, then sell the TDI. I blows my mind that someone would drive a gas hog for years all while waiting for the Elio when they can get a dirt cheap miser right now.
My old TDI was the most reliable car I ever owned and it would give 50 mpg on highway trips doing about 70 mph. I could load it up with equipment and it still gave the same. There are tons out there today and they will easily give you over 700 miles on a recharge. Plus that recharge only take about 5 minutes.
I agree it was a very weakly swung sledge hammer....but have you tried doing the same to your F150 or any other regular truck or car for that matter without putting a BIG dent on it??? On earlier test with the windows before the big reveal and even when they did the drop test, it didn't break so whatever happened at the reveal, didn't matter to me, the fact that they used a ballistic glass to it is awesome- features you don't normally get on a regular truck is the whole point! It's a bump and run demolition derby truck at it's best....and it's completely street legal!
If you are a dork like me then this is a good explanation of the Tesla Cybertruck and when it comes to EV's. I met this guy two years ago at the SEMA show but he does a very good explanation of energy and what you get out of it. So, I suggest you watch this as the numbers do not lie. Plus he did a review on the Elio which we talked about (he drove one). So, watch it and it's a great review as it is indifferent. So, if you are pro Tesla, you will hate him). If you are anti Tesla you will love him/ In the end, it's what happens when you are an engineer. You will have a number of people that will hate you because you can't use creative math to make the economics work. Thus the reason why many people hate me. As I know, most people will not buy a Cybertruck to tow with.
Not to discount his opinion, but people tow with Teslas all the time. The Model X is pretty popular for towing...and it has considerably less range than the Cybertruck. You do lose 35-50% of range when towing...much the same for non-BEV vehicles. So, if you require more than 250 miles of towing in between stops of about 45 minutes...then the Cybertruck will not fit your needs.
That said, most people that purchase trucks don't tow...so I don't see a huge problem with the limitations.
I love Engineering Explained, I found him from his Elio video and have followed his channel since. FWIW he is not anti-Tesla, his main car is a Tesla. Engineering numbers should have no bias
I agree with johnsnownw, I do not think most people are going to do a lot of towing with the Cybertruck. Doug Demuro poo-pooed the Cybertruck as well, comparing max towing ratings to other trucks for the price. In general, my suburban Texas neighborhood full of Mallardo full size trucks that are really minivan/sedan standins that see almost no towing of any kind. This will not be a vehicle that handles every situation. No other vehicle handles every situation either.
I honestly wish it was mid-sized since that would fit my needs better. But I am in love with the design so will deal with an enormous truck, LOL. I think it is currently something like two feet longer than a Suburban. Yuge.
I don't live in Texas but here in eastern PA, what I see are people that own crew cab short bed pickups. About 30% of them tow a travel trailer up to the Poconos about 4-5 times during the summer. Other than that, they use them like a car. Honestly what i see is what Paul Elio seen when he came up with the Elio. People driving these big trucks back and forth to work by themselves. It was a waste of gas. That was back in 2008. Today, a Cybertruck, Lordstown or Rivian can fill that gap of people driving pickups that rarely use them as a pickup. What i find interesting will be the Rivian Amazon Van. When that comes out, it'll give Rivian lots of data on what it takes for stop and go in an urban environment. This is the kind of things I like to see as it'll be for commercial use and they can monitor 100% of the time as to what happens which will make for a better consumer vehicle 5 years down the road. This is the same idea Elio had when they were going to use fleet Elios to develop the consumer version. In the end, Amazon ripped off Elio for this idea. Too bad Paul couldn't have acted upon this back in 2016.