Wings Over North Georgia Air Show, Rome, Ga - October 18 & 19

[goofyone]

They said for mall events they make sure they have 80 inches clearance and the Elio is about 79 inches

Josh would you ask if this will stay the same or decrease a bit in the final vehicle as I know the prototype has much wider tires than will be standard.

 

[goofyone]

They said for mall events they make sure they have 80 inches clearance and the Elio is about 79 inches

Comparison.... my '13 XLT Ford truck from outside to outside tire is 78 inches. Note that the tires stick out past the fenders a small amount.

For stability reasons the three wheels need to be as far apart as they can as that is important so the Elio is overall about as wide and as long as many vehicles. Also don't forget with side mirrors sticking out further this makes the overall minimum width of most vehicles much wider than the Elio as the Elio is widest from wheel fender to wheel fender.

 

[outsydthebox]

I finally got to see it! We got there about 5:30pm. Only about a 10minute "slow down"...folks leaving the show however, had a loooong wait, as we saw several miles of stop and go. Parking was a breeze (and free!), "on the field" and so many had left, we were able to get really close to the entrance. Disappointed that I didn't get to meet any of you. I was able to get my wife to the show (yay) and after about 30 minutes in line she got to sit in the front seat first . You see, I have been emotionally "all in" since joining this group but, she has hasn't. I am proud to say that after seeing the P4 in person, she is impressed. After a bit of walking around, looking at the planes and talking, she was "on board. So, I put money down about 7:30 ..."all in!"
I did get to talk, off and on,with Jerome and a few of the others. I also got to listen to questions from interested people. One guy was grilling Jerome about "why EM put the gas door on the wrong side" . Anyway, Here are a few answers that I appreciated:
1) "Sema show?"...(big grins) and, "you'll be pleased"
2) "compression ratio"...Jerome told someone 12 to 1. I said "...The last video I saw said "10.5:1 and we'll try 11:1". He smiled and said, "That's an old video,it is 12:1 on regular gas." (My impression: Real testing had to be done to make that statement.)
3) "why the wheel skirts instead of fenders?"...Jerome said, "we gained 10mpg's by adding the enclosed wheel skirts."
4) " P3 Pod headlights vs P4 style"...He said, "removing the pods reduced "drag" by 6 pounds!"
5) "Why not replace the side mirrors with cameras?"...He replied,"altho, that would really "clean it up" aerodynamically, current laws don't allow it." I then mentioned, seeing an episode of Jay Leno's Garage, where Jay had a 1920's car with no side mirrors...he added small mirrors inside of the windows. , Jerome replied, "We have a guy who did that on the Elio. No blind spots anywhere! We might offer his "kits" as an accessory."
6)"Tires:Front and rear, the same or different?"...He said, "all three, same size."

That's about all I remember for now.
Overall, great experience. Now waiting for Sema news.

 

[Joshua Caldwell]

I don't suppose there's any "artist's renderings" of the P5 body changes, are there (narrower nose cross-section, taller rear for passenger headroom)? I would hope by now that the frame/chassis would be finalized, as well as the body panels to construct the molds.

No artists renderings since it will be so visually similar to the P4

 

[NSTG8R]

I finally got to see it! We got there about 5:30pm. Only about a 10minute "slow down"...folks leaving the show however, had a loooong wait, as we saw several miles of stop and go. Parking was a breeze (and free!), "on the field" and so many had left, we were able to get really close to the entrance. Disappointed that I didn't get to meet any of you. I was able to get my wife to the show (yay) and after about 30 minutes in line she got to sit in the front seat first . You see, I have been emotionally "all in" since joining this group but, she has hasn't. I am proud to say that after seeing the P4 in person, she is impressed. After a bit of walking around, looking at the planes and talking, she was "on board. So, I put money down about 7:30 ..."all in!"
I did get to talk, off and on,with Jerome and a few of the others. I also got to listen to questions from interested people. One guy was grilling Jerome about "why EM put the gas door on the wrong side" . Anyway, Here are a few answers that I appreciated:
1) "Sema show?"...(big grins) and, "you'll be pleased"
2) "compression ratio"...Jerome told someone 12 to 1. I said "...The last video I saw said "10.5:1 and we'll try 11:1". He smiled and said, "That's an old video,it is 12:1 on regular gas." (My impression: Real testing had to be done to make that statement.)
3) "why the wheel skirts instead of fenders?"...Jerome said, "we gained 10mpg's by adding the enclosed wheel skirts."
4) " P3 Pod headlights vs P4 style"...He said, "removing the pods reduced "drag" by 6 pounds!"
5) "Why not replace the side mirrors with cameras?"...He replied,"altho, that would really "clean it up" aerodynamically, current laws don't allow it." I then mentioned, seeing an episode of Jay Leno's Garage, where Jay had a 1920's car with no side mirrors...he added small mirrors inside of the windows. , Jerome replied, "We have a guy who did that on the Elio. No blind spots anywhere! We might offer his "kits" as an accessory."
6)"Tires:Front and rear, the same or different?"...He said, "all three, same size."

That's about all I remember for now.


Thanks for the info Outsyd! Good stuff! The mirrors inside the windows was something I mentioned a couple of months ago (ala - fighter jet). I'm still planning on doing something like that. Can't wait to see what the other guy came up with. Thanks again for the input!
Overall, great experience. Now waiting for Sema news.

 

[JEBar]

One guy was grilling Jerome about "why EM put the gas door on the wrong side" . Anyway,

did you happen to hear Jerome's response

Jim

 

[tazairforce]

No artists renderings since it will be so visually similar to the P4

Josh, I just found my list of Q's from yesterday.
I have two more, if you have time:
1) Will the set up be inside or outside the mall at B'ham?
2)What would he see as the different between carrying a 250# passenger and towing a 250# trailer?

Thanks

 

[Joshua Caldwell]

Josh, I just found my list of Q's from yesterday.
I have two more, if you have time:
1) Will the set up be inside or outside the mall at B'ham?
2)What would he see as the different between carrying a 250# passenger and towing a 250# trailer?

Thanks

1) they're waiting on an updated weather report on Monday before deciding inside or outside.
2) I'll ask

 

[outsydthebox]

did you happen to hear Jerome's response

Jim

It went something like...
"why is the gas door on the wrong side"
Jerome: "Half of the cars in America are on the right side."
"But I don't want to have to walk around and stretch the hose..."
Jerome: Look, it's half as wide as a regular car, there's no stretching."
(I butted in): "It saves EM $10 per vehicle. That adds up to big savings." (The guy glares at me but is quiet)
Jerome then adds: "It will also be safer, to add gas, on the side of the road."
The guy replies: " If you really cared about safety, there would be a (car) door on both sides!"
That's when I saw another "rep" to talk to.

 

[Jambe]

5) yes , 1 front and 1 back

"Elio Motors Hello Chad, we have a total of three cup holders planned!"

Is this a confirmed change?